sign language...

@mephone4_husband sign language is too tedious along with the fact sign language is different in each country and im not staying in america :man_frowning:

js a suggestion

Learn german

@commierade0101 ich nehme deutsch in die schule boiboi

@mettazashihirokun Oh good luck boi

@commierade0101 heeelp i need new languag idk what to lern

norwegian, swedish, danish, english, german

ive tried korean, russian, finnish, and ukranian and got bored

idk whut to do

@mettazashihirokun I was gonna say my language *_* A fun one is esperanto basically the easiest language to learn only taking 4-6 months

@commierade0101 NO NO NO ESPERANTO IM CRYINGGGGG esperanto is MAXIMUM GOY JEWJEWJEW LANGUAGE. so ig im going with japanese brah.. only think tht was pushing me away is the fact that some of yalls words turn into one big word and idk how im supposed to read or write ts

japanese scares me yall are too advanced fr my brain... same with chinese oh my god im never learning chinese or any dialect of it

learning japanese letters is easy in both alphabets but then u have..... the scary ones...

@mettazashihirokun Yay :clapper: A tip is that we use tsu for double letters: EX ggikuri っ(tsu) ぎ(gi) く(ku) り (ri)

KANJI SUCKS DUDE><>>>MM< I STILL KNOW LIKE 1k BUT REALLY BROTHER :joy:

also uhm づ can either be pronounced dzu du or zu

@commierade0101 so with double letters is the tsu also pronounced or is it like silent,, like is it only there for writing and typing or is it there for talking as well

@commierade0101 dude when i first started linguism i thought it would be GREAT to try japanese as my first LOTE/LOTN and actually cried over trying to understand kanji. i was like 9 but it was SO BAD

@mettazashihirokun Silent i think i dont rlly hear anyone say it

@commierade0101 derp ok thanks for telling me ts is very useful :flushed:

I believe its just for typing but you can also pronounce it but like. very subtle like quiet っく kku you have a double k so pronounce it a bit longer like gakkupo

Also KANJI REPETITION> we use this special symbol for double kanji!(々) example:　青々. Ao is being said TWICE, hence the 々 symbol is in usage

@commierade0101 bokay thank dada

another thing, i already figured this out a couple years ago but

kun- mainly used for males who are in same age class as you

chan- mainly used for females in same age class as you

but do the genders like actually matter? cuz ive seen some refer to their male friends as chan or female friends as kun? how does ts work

@commierade0101 WHAT. KANJI REPETITION DUDE IM GONNA DIE WHAT

@mettazashihirokun to be fair, if theyre comfy you call them anything but if getting to know eachother it's important you ask

so like: Hey Kuru can i call you this -> kun
Oh yeaaaa im female but that sounds cool, but please remember thats not what i use so please treat it lightly

Also the は (wa)　and が(ga) particles. You may notice that was HA, but i said WA. Ha can be pronounced as wa, because it is a broad topic marker.Used for all things, but not specifying which
「GA』 on the other hand is like THE. Example: hey nori!! Are you THE nori from the band ****************????
はい！私が「のり」です。(yes!!!! i'm that/the nori!)

@commierade0101 ohhh okai :flushed: is it like a gay pronoun thing as it is in america, or is it literally just 'i think it sounds cool'

Also the band name was something very funny but colors tagged it die

@mettazashihirokun it can be both, gays are taboo here, but it can also be a thing they're more comfy with

@commierade0101 ok yes dat makes sense abt the が nd は thing

@commierade0101 ohh bokay :flushed: also yeah ive heard abt how gay people are considered taboo and i think dats dumb cuz ive made numerous japanese online friends and they were literally all gay :wilted_flower:

Spanish :D!

OH also funny story ha is pronounced wa sometimes due to the government. in 1942, japan was like: lol, lets change the usage of wa back to wa..
History was made because they already used HA a lot of times and pronounced it wa. Ha is pronounced like that because it was originally fa, then pa, now ha. Wa is the non-pronounced pronounciation, but ha is the topic-pronounced pronounciation

@mettazashihirokun LOL we're like that, usually strict parents or religion

also its kinda like english with tsu say gackt in an english accent now say gakk with an accent other than english, youll see its like ck and sh particles (idk the english word for it)

@commierade0101 idk what u mean by ghat

as in tsu is similar to ch, ck, th, and sh? or??

@commierade0101 so like how do u know when a word with は is pronounced as ha or as a wa? is there an indicator or is it just a guessing game

@mettazashihirokun yea tsu is similar to those

@mettazashihirokun if used in a long sentence or introduction most likely wa

@commierade0101 oh bokay :flushed: thank u dada

@mettazashihirokun yw!! so like わたし__ is わたしは, we don't use the wa gana in introductions

we use ha as its normally pronounced in names tho like haru in hira is はるin kanji its 春　haru is spring

@commierade0101 heeeelppp im so confused about kanji. so like u use hiragana for names but then the actual word is meant to be in kanji?

@mettazashihirokun nono names ARE kanji but we use hiragana sometimes to simplify it

ex: hatsune miku, her first name is ミク which is kana

we also have STAR names like キラ which is in kana. some people use kanji for last and kana/gana for first

@commierade0101 im gonna be that one white person who simplifies everything bro why is kanji so hatd :flushed: ill be reading smt in japanese and be like 'oh ok reading is easy' and then get hit with 隙間 or some shyt bruh. 私和 is easy to read and understand but then they start getting BIGGER AND BIGGER and i just sitthere crying

@mettazashihirokun is it bad i had trouble pronouncing 聞 for years. its used as ki, but also KU. WHAT THE FU>K

いt　HAS SO MNY PRONOUNCIATIONS

@commierade0101 dude are you serious

@mettazashihirokun yes brother its like oh cool ki
what. ban? ku??? IS THERE NOT ALREADY A KI KANJI.

@commierade0101 bro im crying its gonna take me like 500 years to even learn past basic japanese :flushed: bruh my family was literally supposed to move to okinawa back in 2020 this couldve made my learning so much easier are we so fr

we also got haha vs okaasan just use okaasan for mother oh my goodness haha is complicated and plus someof us hate it

@mettazashihirokun basic japanese is so easy but kanji is a he.llhole. WHAT DO YOU MEAN "yea, give it like 5 pronounciations and make each have a different meaning" 聞こえる = to be heard, audible. I'm gonna keep it at that buddy thats all i use 聞 for

@commierade0101 haha means mother?? whut

@commierade0101 THATS ALL IT MEANS??? IT MEANS TO BE AUDIBLE?? THATS IT??? huge аss character for no reason are we fr

@mettazashihirokun yea, 母is haha meaning mother

@mettazashihirokun thats literally all. why must it be like that bruhh

we got 今 (ima/even) and thats pretty simple so why is 聞 pronounced like 気 (ki/mind)

@commierade0101 bro im crying. ok so what do i like. start with

i have hiragana and SOME kana down, but now do i start learning the 500 million gazillion kanji characters or do i skip that for now and move onto sentence structures + word definitions

@commierade0101 bruh doesnt like the way you breathe also matter in japan.. like doesnt the wrd literaly change depending on how you like breathe the word

@mettazashihirokun I skipped kanji bruh learn how to structure sentences, then do kanji past that

@mettazashihirokun I think so yea

@commierade0101 ok great cuz i didnt wanna have to learn kanji :heart: when yer writing kanji is there easier ways for things to be written, or do you have to literally brush stroke every individual little detail of the word. or is it just when yall are writing yall just simplify it to hiragana

also tip　ツ is tsu シ is shi ソ is so　ン is n. so looks like a y while n looks like a stick being thrown/the - being moved away while tsu looks like a stick before falling and shi is the stick after falling

@mettazashihirokun The painful world of stroke order is waiting there is no way to simplify it you can use hiragana but that makes you sound like a kindergartener because we arent really gonna use kanji till like 1st to well you get it

do you want to learn indonesian wit me

@commierade0101 i forced myself to memorize ツ、ソ、シ、and ン a while ago cuz i KNEW id get stuck on it

also isnt kana really only used for foreign words?

@commierade0101 oh my god....

@mettazashihirokun yea kana is used for onomatopeia and loan words

@real_chiyo-chan finding resources to learn indonesian would be so hard i feel like :man_frowning:

@commierade0101 loan words like money? or am i just retarged

@mettazashihirokun no loan wordd are words being borrowed

like Hey usa let me have some words
Uhm ok bro

@commierade0101 OHHH ok help im rarted. ok yes ts makes sense yes. ok well tat should make things a bit easier for me when trying to understand things being said cuz if kana is just loan words and onomatopoeia then i should be able to sound out the phonetics and understand it right.????

@mettazashihirokun yep!

theres also stuff like english sentences　so if im saying stuff like lily the diva its リリ・ザ・ヂヴァ riri za divua (say divua fast, it sounds like diva)

@commierade0101 hooly yes ok atleast kana is easy for my tiny brain :flushed: japanese hopefully wont be too hard cz like korean was so hard mainly cuz of batchim rules and shet :flushed: i need to force myself to not give up on ts cuz if i end up at the college i wanna go to i'd end up in japan every now and then anyways. :man_frowning: massa got me workin

@mettazashihirokun korean was hard to learn ive memorized the writing style but cant seem to understand some of it

@commierade0101 ok dat seems easy :flushed: also what does ー get used for cuz ive seen it a lot. is it just like a stop in what you're saying or????

@commierade0101 yes bro like writing and reading korean is easy and stuff but like definitions along with batchim rules burnt me out so fast

@mettazashihirokun yea i think its used for stopping

@commierade0101 ok dats easy merp :flushed:

we use ～ for elongation along with ･･･　for elongation

@commierade0101 bokay yes i noticed ～ being used a lot and i thought it was for elongation so thaks :flushed:

wow see guys i really am smart sometimes

@mettazashihirokun yes]!!!! anyways i gtg haha

@commierade0101 okai boi :flushed: bye dadaman

ok i realized that 聞 is pronounced ku but is also used as ki.. what.

also uh tsu is also used for normal words つ < you pronounce it っ< used for doubles