I agree! Ai art makes me hate my art, and then I get unmotivated, which is really sucky

@Beargamer real man :( i hate people that do nit understands our sacrifices

absolutely in agreement here!!!!!

@Stellar_pen_skills ty :heartpulse: hoping this will stop dude :cry:

PREACH :fire:

@La1nU_U H3LL YEAH !!! :fire:

I mean, I bet that hundreds, if not thousands of professional artists lose their job due to ai. That may be the only thing they are good at, want to pursue, or found joy in doing that, and now, Ai is destroying that!

@Beargamer that's exactly what i'm saying!!! ugh, it makes me feel so much rage against Artificial Intelligence!!!

agreed ai sucks and I hate seeing it and just the concept of in general
ai users will never truly know just how satisfying finally finishing a peace of art is and just how fun art is as a hobby

@Nyx_The_Moth real. they'll nevere know how satisfying is finishing one piece of YOUR OWN art.

yea! Art is literally my one thing keeping me sane during school. If you look closer, me and my bffs doodle LITERALLY 24/7 All throughout school and classes

I have a bit of a hot-take when it comes to AI generated graphics.

It doesn't feel right to call it art, because there was no "art" to its creation process (at least not in the tradicionak sense).

Generative AI is out there in the world now, and fighting it off is going to be nearly impossible. Furthermore, graphic art is considered a luxury career, and is part of the entertainment industry, which is not a mandatory life-style.

My hot-take is this:
Smart and savvy artists should use AI generated graphics as a study material, and not really to replace the creation process. AI graphics are modeled by the best artists, and I often encourage aspiring artists to learn from the best.

AI may one day displace many entertainment careers, the same way plastic moulding displaced blacksmithing, or machine operated manufacturing displaced assembly lines.

There will still be room for art as a hobby or novelty, just not mainstream

the artificial intelligence art work makes me sad because the work of the people who try hard on their art will become overshadowed
I am glad that there is not artificial intelligence art

I ARGREEE

Yesss! Amazing artists are losing to a machine who cant draw with the same passion or put as much effort as a real person. An AI picture generated in the blink of an eye is nothing compared to the actual thought and care of someone who loves to communicate through art (thats how I feel abt art)

@the_adjudicator
i like the thoughtfulness of your mindset, but i feel like trying to actually study off of ai art and graphics is a bad idea for multiple reasons.

many generative ai algorithms straightup steal their training sets from artists without consent... so if you use ai art as a reference, lets say, for professional character concept art--and state it as such, i feel like it can be somewhat akin to plagiarism due to not being able to properly trace back and credit the source of the ai piece's "style" or creative elements. ai can only copy what it has already seen, and i have seen a couple instances online of ai-generated designs being suspiciously similar to existing character designs.

as for studying ai art to try and improve your own work, most generative art algorithms are now starting to reach a plateau in terms of their overall clarity/skill level, especially since they're starting to "inbreed" and feed off of other ai works. the majority of [cont.]--

ai art tends to have mistakes or a lack of clarity that a professional artist simply would not make--for example, i looked at an ai piece recently of a character sitting on the beach, and although from a glance the lighting, shading, posing and overall composition was very pleasing to the eyes, analyzing the work closer made me realize there was a lot wrong. the details of the characters clothes were muddled and somewhat nonsensical in places, such as folds and ruffles crossing over in a way that simply doesn't make sense. the character was kneeling on one knee in the sand, and had one of their arms up in a position that at first looked like it was leaning against that knee... until you looked closer and realized "wait. the arm is just... in the air?? leaning against nothing?"... and the character had a veil on, but it was difficult to tell where the veil stopped and their hair began. these mistakes could happen with real art, but you're less likely to find them as --

clustered together and as frequently as you do in ai pieces. ai art has no thought or reason put into pieces; there is no intention behind its lines, its colors, its shapes, its designs, /anything/, and if you truly were trying to learn from it to improve your own work, you would realize this. at least, i know i have, because i love to look at the little details of art i adore, both to learn and because i love art as a medium, and whenever i find a piece of ai art and truly /look at it/... i can tell the difference.

you bring up the point of ai algorithms being trained off of the best artists of our time... why would you study off of ai, with all of its flaws and mistakes, when you could study off of the real artists that have had their work copied by ai? it's like studying off of a blurry photograph. you might learn some things of worth, but you will also incorporate mistakes that are simply not present in the original work.

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this isn't meant to be a jab at you personally, but i just feel like your idea has flaws, and it's something i wanted to point out. i do think ai has ways to be helpful as a creative tool--for example, there's this one really neat tool i saw for digital animation, where you color your keyframes and then the ai does its best to copy those colors to the rest of your inbetween frames. the tool itself was in a very early/buggy state when i saw it, but i think with development, stuff like that could be super helpful as it assists with the more tedious parts of animation. but it doesnt entirely create something for you, it simply assists with finishing what you've already made.

not sure how to end off this ramble, but just... ai sucks the soul out of art, and it's also plainly just not very smart. it has uses, but it's more flawed than it is good.

yea, i doubt ai could produce art liike a human

to perfect or to many mistakes

@Elininjakat
You are correct with a lot of what you said, and I agree with you.

I do preferably study from original artists, and I don't go out of my way to study AI generated material. Though you have to admit, it's still improving. Plateau though it may have done, there's still room for it to keep improving, and it very well may hammer out those flaws. Any artist worth their mettle will be able to spot said flaws, and take corrective action on their own.

I don't personally use AI graphics, but it shows up in online spaces often, and my mind likes to focus on what my eyes are seeing and grasp what about it appears so pleasing to look at. Usually this is contrast and color saturation. That's about as far as my study goes with it.

On the topic of plagiarism, many of the best artists are built on the backs of those who cqme before. Was it not plagiarism when the Pokemon company modeled many of their pokemon after the monsters from Dragon Quest?

If there was one thing I wish AI would do, it's include links to all the material that it was trained on based on the prmpts provided by the user.

The thing is, this tool is out there, and even if we tried to shut it down, who's going to stop others from building it back up? Governments don't want to remove it, they want to use it.
It's a powerful tool, and either you can break yourself trying to fight it, or you can put it to good use while we have it.

Just to be clear, I'm not advocating for AI as a goid thing. My life would be no worse for wares if we did manage to shut it all down. What I am saying is, in whose hand is this tool put to better use; yours, or your enemy's?