mspec lesbians??

is anti-selfdx anti self diagnose? (askin for clarification :3 )

...what r you talking about i dont like south park at all......
(to b fair though i grew up on it)

also if you dont mind me asking bc i dont hav internet accsess what is the last 1

@EliAftonLookin yes ! ! i understand being against it if said person hasn't done any research , but it's unfair if someone who has been researching and making sure that they are correct is invalidated , since some people can't be granted the luxury of a professional diagnosis

@CatPNG
people that claim to be "bis3xual and lesbian" , or "pans3xual and lesbian" and so on . it is an extremely harmful label , since lesbianism is non men loving non men and cannot be used as an umbrella term . it can also apply to people that are trans men and identify as lesbian , or demiboys that identify as lesbian . it's invalidating in both ways . .

@Morgiepoo anti self diagnosing !!
IM OK W SP FANS if ur chill .. somw of thwm irk me

@scaramouche

ohhh
thanks

@jakePAUL me when i see people who drqw ship art of ****** 4th graders .

I never watch South Park...
and I'm afraid I'm never going to

@jakePAUL OH MY GOD FUN FACT I WAS SO NERVOYS WHSN I POSTD THAT BC SOME MFS ON HERE GENUINELY SUPPORT THWM :skull: liiike ok ..... eerrmmm.

@CatPNG GOOD

@jakePAUL not naming names ofc!! :p

@scaramouche

okay-
is the show that bad??

@CatPNG just a lot of r*cist . and ********** . and .... litdral.y every offensive thing ever joks

@scaramouche

i think i could handle a few offensive jokes?
i don't really get offended by jokes-

@jakePAUL NO ITS OK ..... i could talk ab this stuff for so long HELP

@jakePAUL

uh-h
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@jakePAUL

nothing-

ohhhh yeah that makes sense. yah im cool with self diagnosing its when people fake psychosis to be quirky for me, ik know so many people who actually struggle and it makes me angry

but ty :heartbeat: /p

@Morgiepoo RIGHT ... when peopl say they "have" psychosis i get second hand embarrassment :skull: like ok ... next !!

i agree with all of these except demiboys can be lesbian- they're demiboys not men, even if aligned with them to some degree /vnm /nbr

@LoganPaul demiboy means "somebody who identifies with both MALE and agender genders" you cannot identify with male if you are lesbian. it is super invalidating both ways. it would be different if demiboy meant someone who identifies with masculinity, which is fine, but demiboy means that you identify yourself with the male gender. /nm /inf

that's not what i've heard about the demi___ genders from what i've read / studied / whatever it is someone who identifies as any form of nonbinary + aligns themselves with masculinity, not necessarily IS a guy, and it's a spectrum of various degrees of feeling like a guy, for a lot of people they never feel fully male, only partially. i could be completely wrong though, it's not a thing that's unlikely

however by saying that you're saying bigender lesbians, genderfluid lesbians, etc are not lesbians either js (ofc w genderfluid if they're identifying male at that point in time then obviously not but you get what i mean) even so partially aligning with being a male does not equal to being a male, there is a significant difference between the two.
again i could be wrong but i would have to do more research on the identity i identify as if that's the case /vvvvvnm /nbr

@LoganPaul even if you identify with the male gender 1% ,, you can't be lesbian. lesbianism is non men loving non men , hence if you identify with the male gender at all (not masculinity,) you cannot be lesbian. demiboys identify themselves with the male gender , so , coming from a lesbian !!! they cannot be lesbians. same with demigirls .. demigirls cannot me mlm becausw they identify w the female gender !!

oki doki
i'll look into it more myself ty for educating me scara :3

THANK YOU FOR THE BLACKWASHING THING !!
i see so many peopl saying blackwashing is a thing when it isnt :sob:
making a FICTIONAL CHARACTER black isnt hurtinb anyone, and its for rep since a lot of the animes/other stuff don evr hav black people .
whitewashing IS harmful & råcist . /gen/nm

@honekoneko RIGHT???!!!
me side eyeing when ppl r like "dni blackwashers!!" LIKE ... ok . :skull: point and laugh everyone!!!
and when mfs use the excuse "well if it was reversed.." :sob: TS MAKING THEM LOOK EVEN STUPIDER .

@scaramouche
points and laughs!!!
like erm... okay ! mayb you shouldv kept that to yoursel.. :skull:
they are so stupid its nlt dven fnny djdhmkrj !!!

@honekoneko SO TRUE !!!! meowzu simply never misses .

@scaramouche
nevr evr !!!! meowzu stays ontop . !!

THIS IS SO REAL !!!!
bro sp fans be wilding :skull: /neg
i like sp since its silly n stupif but the fandom,,,,,, :boom: :boom: :boom:

@STARZZ EXACTLYY

when you say "bi/pan lesbian", do you mean people who are homoromantic & bis/pan'xual AND/OR bi/panromantic & homos'xual?? or do u mean smth else? bc when i hear "bi/pan lesbian" thats what the identity reads as to me, i dont know much about it nor am i a lesbian myself BUT i am somewhere on the ace spectrum and romantic/s'xuality are quite separate for me. so, i think Personally that bi/panromantic homos'xuals n homoromantic bi/pans'xuals are valid, if thats not what a bi/pan lesbian is then please correct me!! /nbr /gen i dont wanna start any fights, im genuinely curious and cant put much research into this bc of my parents monitoring my internet history ;v;
i do think "bi/pans'xual lesbian" as a label sounds A Bit Contradictory but if its separate romantic/s'xual orientations then i think the identity is fine if they just. use a different term/diff flags maybe idk :'D

@EliAftonLookin im just talking about thw people that identify as lesbian and bi/pan .. this applies to 'lesbian pan/biromantic' people. you cannot be attracted to men and be a lesbian , hence it is invalid . .

@scaramouche i think you tagged the wrong person /lh

aight, just to make IOO percent sure we're on the same page, i think bi/panromantic homos'xuals and homoromantic bi/pans'xuals are fine as orientations, AS LONG as a different term than "lesbian" is used. does this constitute a dni?? ^^' /genq

im mostly just confused since im not sure what "bi/pan lesbian" even means tbh djdjshshd, im sorry if my phrasing itself isnt good/is extra confusing x_x

also eerrm do he/him or he/they lesbians fall anywhere in the mspec stuff/would constitute a dni?? bc personally i think pronouns do not always equal gender, ofc a LOT of times they do but other times they dont

@EliAftonLookin yes of course!!! just as long as you dont use that label, you're perfectly fine !! like you can be s3xu4lly attracted to only women but romantically attracted to all genders . that is perfectly valid !! i was just talking ab the label usage . i didnt read ur comment right, im sorry!! /gen

@EliAftonLookin also no ! im a lesbian and i use he/him and they/them . as long as you do not identify as a man, ur fine !! pronouns absolutely do not equal gender !! he/him and they/them lesbians r perfectly valid!!

@EliAftonLookin OH MY GOSH . IM SO SORRY HELO I JUST SAW THIS .. omg im so sorry :sob: /gen

@Elininjakat ^^ AHH I GOT THE WRONG PERSON.. IM SORY LOLO

I FEEL SO BAD ... idk why it automatically input that as the uswrname!! im so sorry @/EliAftonLookin /gen /gen

why even care about other people's own fking identifies? (the mspec stuff)
i support it and may very well be mspec (i also used to be very anti) and now it's funny to see that people say you can't be gay and bi lol
like, people rewrote what 'bis-xual' means years ago
and it doesn't harm ANYONE to say ''yeah i'm both bi and gay" they could be lazy and not wanna say their s-xualality changes bahahaha (/nay - not at you) (/light-hearted)
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i'm not a lesbian though so idk how stuff works hahaha^

@cipherz the attraction itself is valid but what i am saying is that people are using lesbian as an umbrella term. (it isnt)
the label is extremely invalidating on both sides !! yes , you can be s3xually attracted to only women and then be romantically attracted to everyone else , THAT is valid . i am just saying that if you USE that label , plz dni !! because it is EXTREMELY harmful and makes me , as a lesbian , feel uncomfortable !! /nm /inf

@jakePAUL DW . jakepaul never misses :fire:

OHH yeah that makes sense
i just sorta ignore the use of labels honestly haha (for myself)
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@cipherz yeah makes sense !! i didnt wanna come off as a hater or anything .. i just dont want people w harmful labels interacting w me :sob: /nay /nm

@jakePAUL you are truly on the everyday bro grind

oopsie i was a lil late in replying but alrighty, thank u for clearing it up!! :3 and dw abt the @ mishap lol the @ autofill is funky w/ me too whenever i use it :sob: i usually just manually type them