im leaving by CoolDude2007

so i posted a meam that was saying i identitfid is as a helicopter not any thing offensive. Right? Wrong! Someone reported me and i get an email from the colours support team saying that the painting was "abu'sesiv" and if i continue to do so i will be band. im not going to be on this platform if you can be reported for a small joke! its so stressful having to censor all my interactinos to cater to the few! so im leving colours im working on seting up a website to share my art i will post the

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04 Sep, 2022, 4:21 pm
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CoolDude2007

04 Sep, 2022, 4:21 pm

link when i finish. geez what a wast of money

CrystallizedDusk

04 Sep, 2022, 4:34 pm

Sorry to hear that, Cool. People are getting more and more offended by small jokes. It's best not to let them get to you.

astrofiloo

04 Sep, 2022, 4:34 pm

some people take having the colors mods call your actions abusive as feedback to maybe work on themselves. not you ig.
Anyways the attack helicopter meme was made quite literally to make fun of people and while i don't believe you should've been reported for that, you should know it wasn't 'harmless'.
Esp if you don't identify as lgbt+

Good luck building your website, i heard it's fun to do so and enjoy your journey off of colors.

CoolDude2007

04 Sep, 2022, 4:38 pm

@EchoSoup that was literally years ago and i didn't even know the orgins of that meam

jaames

04 Sep, 2022, 5:00 pm

You could have emailed our support inbox if you wanted a clarification, but since you want to go the public route instead, I guess I'll reply here.

The "attack helicopter" meme is one that is rather explicitly meant to mock LGBTQ (particularly trans) folks. The rest of your paintings description being a joke about gender reassignment surgery very much seemed to indicate that you are aware of this connotation, although maybe you're young and are just parroting something you heard without understanding that background. Our rules still apply nonetheless.

Making disparaging remarks about others or joking about other's identities breaches the hate speech rules as set out in our Community Guidelines, which you agreed to follow when you signed up for an account here.

Im_a_bad_drawer

04 Sep, 2022, 5:07 pm

@jaames ohh so thats what it was. i Didn't see the post but i could be wrong.

tall73

04 Sep, 2022, 5:08 pm

Will miss you!

Hailsss

04 Sep, 2022, 7:31 pm

Aww cya bruh

Wind_Waker

04 Sep, 2022, 7:44 pm

See ya man! Good luck!

CoolDude2007

04 Sep, 2022, 9:37 pm

@Wind_Waker @Hailsss @tall73 @tb_studios thx all for all the suport i will miss you guys vary much

TB_studios

05 Sep, 2022, 3:46 pm

Dude I know exactly how you feel. I know it's anoying and super bias, but if I may encourage you to stick around ( I'm not saying be compliant but maybe jump through the hoops a little bit.) I remember when I was band I started to change the game a little bit. Unfortunately sarcasm is not very accepted on this platform.

TB_studios

05 Sep, 2022, 3:48 pm

I'll probably still get banned simply because of my religious views but the bible says "They will hate you for my name sake." and nothing could be more true

TB_studios

05 Sep, 2022, 3:55 pm

@jaames Well you did not seem to have the same attitude towards @mewinabubble . The colors team actually promoted her art specifically directed to those who are not vegan by giving her The Weekly Challenge win at least once that I am aware of. Her art was there to try to guilt those who ate meat or in her words 'abbused animals' and that void your guidelines as 'abusive'

TB_studios

05 Sep, 2022, 3:56 pm

and that 'DID NOT' void your guidelines. Sorry

jaames

05 Sep, 2022, 5:06 pm

@TB_studios

Despite what you seem to think, the rules are there for everyone's benefit. Moderation is never going to be perfect nor is is going to make everyone happy; some people will think we're doing too much, other people will think we're doing too little. It is a thankless task that will never satisfy all.
I will admit there are things that we get wrong or are too slow to handle and communcation between team members is often poor, but sometimes novel situations happen and there isn't a clear precedent or consensous for how it should be handled. Some things that you brought up are still being discussed internally. Some patience and understanding would be appreciated.

I really don't know why you seem so intent on casting us as biased or hateful towards religion specifically, especially when I have already explained (several times) that it is perfectly fine for you to have religious views, and you will see from a casual scroll through the gallery that there are plenty of religous paintings and users on the gallery that haven't been removed. I nor anyone else on the team cares if you are religous or not, some of us are relgious ourselves, even.

However, the unfortunate fact is that there have been instances where people have used their religion/politics/whatever as an excuse for spreading thinly veiled hatred towards others, and regardless of where that's coming from, that isn't okay.

TB_studios

05 Sep, 2022, 7:08 pm

@jaames

I'm sure your position is difficult, and I'm not saying I could do better, I was just trying to ensure that there is equality in everyone's speech.
Know that I don't have a problem with you censoring comments (I know I agreed to that when I created the account) as I said, I just want to make sure that everything is fare. Thank you for your dedication to the users of this software, and trying to make a safe environment for especially the younger kids on here.

jaames

05 Sep, 2022, 7:59 pm

@TB_studios

I appreciate that. For what it's worth, if someone feels we messed up somewhere then they're welcome to contact us, as long as they're not just coming in looking for an argument (I do not care nor have the time for that). Oftentimes it'll just be a simple mistake or something we forgot about that can be resolved easily.

Also, respectfully, that last comment does make for a bit of an odd contrdiction over your previous comments that I felt was worth pointing out. If you know otherwise, then making offhand remarks to the effect of "I'll probably be banned for being religious" is dishonest, and is only going to further sow division between gallery staff and the userbase. I get that nobody likes being moderated, but falling back on some persecution narrative when your behaviour was out of line doesn't do anyone any favours in the long run.

CoolDude2007

05 Sep, 2022, 9:16 pm

jaames you are the one that was on my post dont you think you have something better to do than picking fights with kids! stop being so childish!

CoolDude2007

05 Sep, 2022, 9:20 pm

u are an grown up! you literally would have had been looking for my posts! That is staking witch is against the code of conduct btw i looked! witch is also braking a the terms of use that u would have had agreed to when u made an account! (unles u puled some strings)

CoolDude2007

05 Sep, 2022, 9:21 pm

same with the other comment i made somewhere elso y are you monitoring my interactions!

CoolDude2007

05 Sep, 2022, 9:27 pm

wich can put u in prison for a year in the us

jaames

05 Sep, 2022, 11:13 pm

@CoolDude2007 I'm not entirely sure what to make of that, and it feels you've perhaps misread me or something? To clarify, I work for Colors Live as a programmer, and I'm also temporarily responsible for moderation. If someone is confused about our rules or is acting out in some way... it's kinda my job to handle that. While that usually happens over email, I do sometimes hop into comment threads too.

We have an internal tool that shows us all of the latest activity happening on the gallery, and sometimes when I'm not busy I browse through that to keep an eye on things. I happened to see your post and other's comments, so figured I'd chime in. Again, just doing my job.

I'm confused why you seem to think I'm picking a fight, I understand I can come off as a bit blunt sometimes so I'm sorry if that's what caused you to think that, but I can assure you that's not the case.

TB_studios

06 Sep, 2022, 1:21 pm

@jaames
I think there is a misunderstanding in the communication, and probably due to my error of delivery.
I never said I did not break the rules, I said I know the rules, but I did not say I did not break them. I know I broke them but only because I saw the colors team breaking the rules by promoting someone else who was breaking the rules. Therefor I saw a opportunity to share my religion. My religion, as you know, demotes h0m0$3xu@lity. So when I saw mewinabubble being such a activist for what she believed in, I seized the opportunity to be a activist for what I believed in, now that I had some ground to stand on. That is why I said "due to my religion" Because my religion may not be accepted and it is to some "abusive" So I would not say "dishonest" or that it was a contradiction, just that it really does trace back to my religion. Because I took the same approach as Mewinabubble, just what I said was not agreed with. Why? Well because of what I believe.

Please know I'm not trying to quarrel, I'm just trying to make what I am saying very clear, and because I am a poor communicator, it makes it sound like I just want too argue.

Sky_Galaxy

06 Sep, 2022, 11:18 pm

@CoolDude2007 I meant to say bye to you a long time ago- sorry I didn't. But I do want you to know that the Colors Live programmers are not our enemies. Sure they may do things that seem unfair, but they often do this for a reason. Ok look: I made an alternate account on here. Following a trend, I made it seem like my other account was a clone of me, a rather rude and crass clone mind you-

Sky_Galaxy

06 Sep, 2022, 11:24 pm

@jaames said that it was inappropriate, and told me, and I quote: "....best cut that out." Honestly I did not appreciate it, but I understood. From what I understand you made an inappropriate joke about gay people. I'm very impartial when it comes to both the gay and straight community. But making jokes against one's orentaition, race, color, or culture is highly inappropriate! Idk if you understood that or not, and I don't know how long ago it may have been

Sky_Galaxy

07 Sep, 2022, 12:43 am

But those are simply the rules. I'm terribly sorry that it made you feel bad... if you feel the need to leave, by all means should you leave.

fairytaleincolor

04 Oct, 2022, 2:45 am

jaames go off king

Waffles09

14 Dec, 2022, 6:13 pm

yes.. but you didn't leave,

CoolDude2007

15 Dec, 2022, 1:09 am

i just came back lol @Scribbles09

Waffles09

15 Dec, 2022, 11:03 pm

(-^_^-) well... I'm glad your back!

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