Pac: "Well, if it isn't... uhh... Whatever your name is!"

Marius: "Oh its you, milenium guy. How are ya?"

Pac: "Well, I'm in a bit of a predicament. See, don't tell anyone I told you, but the girls know that you've been trying to peep on them in the baths, so now I'm supposed to tell you off. Normally, they would've come here themselves and beat the snot outta you, but I volunteered to talk to you for them. I feel like I should be mad, but a small part of me is curious as to how you got away with it for so long... What should I do?"

Marius: " Wh..What?!
I deny such accusations!
I may be a scoundrel. But I don't gawk while women bathe! That is just undignified!" (Lying)

Pac: ...But.... Wasn't that you in the trees? Next to the baths? I thought you were picking fruit, but now that I think about it...

Marius: " N..No! No way! I was going to rest! Its just coincidence that the bath area is nearby...But I must ask...Why were you on the south side of camp?"

Pac: "Oh, well I was going to go try to peep on the girls in the bath. I was going to go up the tree, but you were already there."

Marius: "Er.....I guess that does explain why you decided to postpone that angry mob of women for me....*Sighs*..Do ya want the truth? You saved me so I owe you..."

Pac: "...Does it have anything to do with peeping? Because after much deliberation, I've decided it's best not to peep. ...That mob of women is something that I wish upon no man..."

Marius: "Well...er...Yes.
I was perhaps maybe possibly peeping.......But I must ask though....Who do you think blew the whistle on my ''hobby'' "

Pac: "I'm not sure. I told them about your fruit picking, but then they all got mad..."

Marius: "I.....You...Er.........Wow.
I guess thats that then.
*Sighs* No harm done. Whats done is done.at least I know i'm not the only one dabbling in this ''hobby''. Lucky for us. I always have backup vantage points in case one is compromised.
Theres this sweet spot in the thick lemon grass that is great for concealed observation."

Pac: " ...Is that right? Well, I've decided to keep my peeping in the past. I would rather not get an angry herd of ladies after me... But, good luck with yours! I'll just go tell the girls that- Wait a second... I'M SUPPOSED TO MAKE YOU STOP PEEPING!!!"

Marius:*Started to sneak away but turned around when pac's voice raised* "Nyahaha....Come on...A guy to a guy. Bro to bro. Can't you, I don't know....Say I agreed to stop peeping? I mean really my pal, how would they find out the truth? And if I said I would stop. Would you believe me?"

Pac: "Honestly... I don't think I would. But, if those girls find out I covered for you, I'd get pummeled... Gahhhh.... What's the solution...?"

Marius: "Hmmmmm....I have an idea! *Grins widely* Hey look over there! Its Cliff with his scarf off! Ooh does he look weird! (Bluffing)

Pac: "Nice try, but you and I both know that Cliff takes off his scarf about as frequently as I take off my mittens! That is to day, never!"

Marius:"Oh well....Worth a try.... See you later buddy!" *Dashes away zig-zagging through the trees*

Pac: "HEY WAIT!! I STILL DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO!! Agh... I guess I'll just tell those girls that he'll stop peeping... I hope he'll at least be more discreet about it... Ugh... I can't believe how clueless I had to act just to get a confession... Ho boy... I hope those girls won't pummel me... Oh. I never did get his name, did I?"

[Support End]

That was HILARIOUS! The dialogue for this one is AMAZING! This is up there as my favorite support on #febi right now! xD
Btw you did awsome job on #mariusfebi He looks good! >:3
I feel sorry for #febipac though,
he is in a sticky situation xD

Ah well, I think Pac is used to being in sticky situations XD.

omg lmfao! guys this is hysterical! XD
great job!

Oh, sorry about that. I was just thinking along the same lines as Robin and Vaike's support in Awakening. That one referenced Sully, had Vaike try to spy on girls in the baths, I tried for something similar. Even in Laslow and Odin's support, they referenced Severa. I was careful not to insult or make fun of anyone else, I tried to keep the focus on Pac and Marius. I don't think I made anyone else uncomfortable, but if I did, I apologize.

I know it's not ideal, but I thought I was clear enough that Pac and Marius are in the wrong. Pac was left in a bad situation and Marius is likely to get his comeuppance soon enough. I also made sure to mention that Pac didn't succeed in peeping, he just tried to. I think trying and failing to do something rude to someone else isn't insulting to the person you are trying to do wrong with, but is insulting the person who failed, as it shows their ineptitude. That's kinda the idea of Pac. A childish and immature guy who constantly gets punished for doing childish things, like peeping.

Ok ok
Soras right
Listen
Peeping is not right
Especially when it's literally the topic of every single Marius support
Like
Not to be harsh but Marius is pretty much a womanizer
And honestly? It makes him a catlyst for messed up and wrong supports
Not to mention, using a character as a mask is not ok
You can't just excuse making people uncomfortable or being sexist with "oh its just how my character is" cause whether you admit it or not, you still did it
And this is different from fire emblem characters like laslow or febi characters like Eltenir because they are flirts, not sexual offenders or womanizers

I get that Marius is pretty much just a pervert, but I also made sure not to give any names. For all we know, he's just peeping on unnamed female soldiers. I don't think he is supporting the act of peeping or anything, I think it's clear enough that he's just a pervert, and that people shouldn't follow his example.

First off, Marius is not "just a pervert"
He is a womanizer
In his backstory it was literally stated that he went around sleeping with all the women he met
Some women even cheating on their spouses
I hope I don't have to explain why that's sexist to you
Sure Marius has had bad luck as of late but that's just because the actual female characters of febi have actual character and aren't just sex objects
And secondly
Once again you're using a character as a mask to defend someone's actions

Ok, don't blame Haiiro for

The peeping this time. I'm the one who first brought it up, so I'll take responsibility for it. Second, OF COURSE the women I'm FEBI aren't just sex objects. I don't think Haiiro is playing Marius up as some sort of "player" or anything. And, I'm sorry, but if the very mention of the act of peeping makes people uncomfortable, then those people need to grow up. Peeping has been mentioned in Fire Emblem before, it's not exclusive to Marius.

Yes I know that he means well, I have nothing against anyone here, I'm sure you are all very nice people.

Oh they need to grow up?
So you think Birdleaf needs to grow up because she wasn't ok with Marius peeping on her while she's naked?
Or chocobanana being upset with Marius peeping on Ivanna?
Oh totally they're the bad guys here
And who cares if it was in fire emblem?
There's a reason why people don't like the Robin x chrom support or the Corrin x azura revelations support
And febi is a group rp
So we are dealing with other characters
You need to respect that
So yeah
You're the one who needs to grow tf up

*marius peeping on Citlali

No, they are not the bad guys here. Of course they aren't. No one is. This is just differing opinions, and no one is wrong for having them. If I made anyone else uncomfortable, then I sincerely apologize. And when an eerily similar situation happened before with another Marius support, Haiiro also sincerely apologized. We are not out to demean, insult, or hurt anyone else. Of course we aren't. This is just two childish people doing childish things for laughs. If you find it uncomfortable, then I'm sorry, really I am, for creating it. But others find humor in it, and it's not fair to those people to completely omit it just because of other people's opinions. Also, the Robin and Chrom support is one of the more popular supports, if views and likes on Youtube are any indication.

Clearly haiiros apology meant absolutely nothing if he's still doing the same thing.

Also your differing opinion is clearly bad if it's offending people.
And it is.

Idk how we can make this any more clear.

And to those people, once again, can't stress this enough, I sincerely apologize. I make absolutely sure that any character I reference, include, or mention, I always put them in the right, and Pac in the wrong. Having Pac get fireballs thrown at him, getting childishly jealous, etc. I always have Pac be the one to suffer, not only for the comedy, but to make sure I don't hurt or insult any creators. Even at the end of this support, Pac is left in an undesirable situation.

If this type of humor is offensive to you, then I am once again VERY sorry. Really. But I will keep having it, because there are those who find it funny. I promise it's not out of malice or sexism, it's just to display how childish and immature Pac is.

If you're going to apologize then you should actually mean it.
Don't just make more excuses like you're innocent.

Apparently I'm not innocent. That's why I'm apologizing.

I don't get it
I actually don't get it.
We're just trying to fix this issue that you guys are causing so febi makes people feel more welcome and less uncomfortable and yet STILL you don't listen.
And you're STILL using Pac as a mask
That's not ok
How many times do we have to say that

Fine. You know what? If I am legitimately, sincerely, and honestly hurting, offending, demeaning, or insulting ANY other creator with this support, then I will be glad to take it down right now. If this support is something that will only cause more arguements like this, then I will take it down. Just say the word,

Because I'm only learning now that I am offending people with this picture. I honestly thought it was just innocent, if slightly immature fun, but I seem to have hurt people, and I am sorry for that.

As much as I'd like for you to take it down, please don't
We need other people, like haiiro, to see this discussion

Fine. I joined colors and febi to have fun, maybe improve my drawing, but I seem to have actually instead hurt people instead. To whoever I have hurt, I, once again, apologize.

Any problems I may have caused, I didn't even know I have caused, but I will try to stop them.

I see you and Haiiro are having trouble with the "authorities." Honestly though, I don't think this is deserved, especially for you; it's not your fault, I mean, if it's anyone's fault, it'd be the admins fault for not catching this earlier and dealing with it then. And besides, Marius is not the only pervert; it was clearly stated that Hades was a pervert, but no one either objected or showed any sign of caring. That's deliberate discrimination if you ask me.
Come to think of it, they shouldn't even be using the grounds that they are to complain. I mean, there are plenty of characters in F.E.B.I. that have traits and do things that would make people uncomfortable. For example, there are alchoholics (which can be uncomforting), gays (which can also make people uncomfortable), people that curse like it's a second language (very discomforting, and also potentially offensive), and characters that are deliberately objectified (extremely offensive), yet no one does anything about any of it.

Now I'm not saying we should encourage perversion (and from what I can tell, neither are you), but it's not fair to crack down on one user for something that is discomforting, especially when there are many other users doing things that'd be discomforting and even offensive.
If you want my thought on the matter (which I know the "authorities" won't), I say you should either let Marius be Marius, or start cracking down on all these other things that people do and start really cleaning up the place. Either way, we need to be fair about this.

So hey, I don't think either of you deserved that kind of verbal assaulting (heck, AwesomeBoy shouldn't even be involved here. This is Forever Team business, and last I checked, he's not Forever Team, nor is he qualified to become such); this place is pretty messy as it is, and, unless they want to clean up the entire community, it's not fair to rant to you guys for doing or talking about something uncomfortable (especially when others do it in different ways).
So hey, there's my two cents. Pass the message along to Haiiro when you next see him, alright? Take care, and stay clean!

^ took the works out of my mouth

Oh and Jon
Don't compare Marius to hades
We aren't judging Marius for being a pervert as much as we are for him being a womanizer
I repeat
MARIUS IS A WOMANIZER
THAT MEANS ALL WOMEN HE MET IN HIS BACKSTORY SLEPT WITH HIM
THEN HE LEFT
AND SOME OF THEM CHEATED ON THEIR SPOUSES
Don't compare that to hades, who has shown to be genuinely interested in romantic relationships
And Marius has said to peep on other peoples characters
I repeat
Marius looked at other peoples characters naked
Not just any woman
And your other comparisons
Let's see here
No one cares if characters are alcoholic, in fact even gills himself joked around with it
Gay characters?? If people have issues with gay characters, that says more about the people uncomfortable than the characters
Pretty homophobic of you jon
Might as well say all febi characters have to be white while you're at it

You claim to be creating a "welcoming community," and obviously you've done a wonderful job at that, constantly isolating those that don't think the same way you do and being blind to any flaws you may have. Truly inspiring work there.
Come talk to me when you learn to treat others like human beings, no matter their views.

Um
Your views are disgusting tho
This isn't a light topic
This is you hating people for something they have no control over
You know who else did that?
Hitler
Infact
Hitler was homophobic
So yeah
Get your head out of your a.ss Jon

^ that was specifically towards the homophobic comments

And these other view we are talking about are offensive too
We shouldn't just stand for Marius's backstory making women look like sex objects or him sexually offending other characters
And you shouldn't start accusing characters of things when no one has complaints about them
Marius does

Uhh... I would delete the picture, but hiding ugliness in a community doesn't solve anything.

I mean, I don't really like people accusing people, so that's why I defended Haiiro. Whatever he did, I'm sure he didn't do with malicious intent.

Yeah, I know I'm in no position to justify Haiiro's actions, I suppose I was just trying to cushion the bloe, but u seemed to have made it worse.

Look, I know I like to portray a sense of laziness and immaturity with my characters and my gallery, but in actuality, I'm an adult. And if I have to be the adult, ie taking heat for a situation, or trying to mediate intense arguements, then I will. I try to be as mature as I can with situations like this, and sometimes that means having to put up with arguements that aren't yours to argue. I don't blame anyone, I don't get mad at anyone, and I assume everyone is here to just have some fun, not make anyone uncomfortable, and that includes Haiiro. Don't get me wrong, if he is willingly and knowingly making others uncomfortable, then he should stop. But, I like to believe people are innocent until proven guilty.

Fine. I say we all just agree to disagree, anyway.