personaly, i don't know what to beleave. Christanity said the earth is only a few thousand years old. Science proves it wrong. i'm more of a scientific person, i just hope that doesen't offened anyone...

Crush42: I may have written my thoughts wrong in the discription, but I don't support LGBT. It's just he told me that he was afraid to post it because of any backlash. So, if he could post something like that, and still was kind of afraid to do so, then I can too. His post of that convinced me to post my belifes, even if I'm a bit shy and afraid to. Thank you for your comment ^-^

This is an AWESOME picture. I admire that you were not afraid to post this. You have great courage. I am a Christian and i belive that whatever religion you are,or if you don't have a religion, we are all equal and none should be discriminated.

Austin7: Exactly! BlackRoseDragon: You're entitled to your belifes as I am. But, when looking from a Christian perspective, I notice the flaws in carbon dating, along earth aging in science. Since Evololution and the Big Bang theory are still only theory's, I don't even consider them. "If what's true for you is true for you, and what'd true for me is true for me; what if my truth says yours is a lie? Is it still true?" This qoute can be used for everything. And, I'm not offended, you're being honest! Thank's for commenting.

Lol okay Crush42 XD I wasn't sure if you thought I was a suporter or not... My thoughts put to paper (pixel) always seem confusing when I re-read them! And thank you a bunch The NyanCat! And, I completly agree!

Ack! That came out wrong! I didn't mean 'don't consider it'! I meant I find it hard to believe, just like how non-Christians find it hard to belive! And, no problem Austin! I am too ^-^

nice pic... i dont have a religeon

WoooHooooo! im a christian and i dont care wat other people think!! :D

Minecraft: Don't worry, I'm not going to force mine on you. Sup Bro: Haleyuler(Shameless Madea fan XD)!

A picture with a beautiful message...WAY TO GO UTENA-CHAN! yeah, i know im a Christian^w^

Thank's AnimeGirl, I tried my best! I didn't know that XD Yay!

wow great work!... i have no religion im more of a "ok whatever flaots your boat" kind of person.. i dont care what people think plus you have a good point austin&utena people have there own belife (lol cant spell right now :/) i just hate it when people with a religion FORCE me (&others) to be a christian,catlat,satanic,joish or something like that stuff its super annoyeing ','

I was a Christian for most of my life, but then I made the mistake of researching my own religion with an open mind. The more you learn, and the more educated you become, the more you realizes exactly how bogus theistic religion is in general. I may write more on this later, but I wanted to leave this comment here for posterity. Did I mention I love your gallery?

TheVulpix: I have to say, If you really were a Christian, you wouldn't 'come out' of it. Raised in a Christian home and harboring Christian belifes does not make you a real Christian, just the American excuse for one. Though, your opinion about Religion is true, I will let you know I'm not Religious. I know somewhere Yeshua/Jesus says not to be religious in The Bible... Anyway, if you came here to try and prove why Christianity is 'bogus', I don't know why you would. This wasn't meant to preach to people, just putting out my personal belifes. Now, I'm not narrow minded, and know quite a bit if I say so myself. I don't want you thinking I'm an uneducated Christian following doctrine blindly. But, thank's for the complent ^-^ I hope I'm not sounding agressive or hostile... You may do as you please with your comments, but they wont sway me ;D

The "if you really were a Christian, you wouldn't come out of it" accusation is what's known as the No True Scotsman fallacy. It's a fallacy that's bandied about almost as often as the argument from ignorance or the argument from morality. There's a good video on Youtube by TheraminTrees titled "No True Scotsman" that summarizes all the problems with this fallacy, and I strongly suggest you watch it. My faith was very real and very personal to me.
I never said you weren't educated. I was an educated Christian once, too. In my case, I had read the entire Bible on my own by age 14, I went to a Christian school with daily Bible classes, and I attended weekly services and youth groups. I thought I had good reasons for believing. However, eventually, I decided to apply skepticism to my faith, and I was faced with questions I couldn't answer. For example: Why would Jesus condone slavery (Ephesians 6:5), an inherently evil practice? The excuse is always that slavery was once like employment, but that's not true at all, as even the Bible itself permits sex slavery (Exodus 21:7-11) and beating your slaves, so long as they don't die right away (Exodus 21:20-21). If you think Jesus came to change to any of that, remember that Jesus himself said that he came to fulfill Old Testament law (Matthew 5:17). Further, why would God even put these horrible laws into practice in the first place? Shouldn't sex slavery, violence to slaves, and slavery itself, for that matter, be condemned as inherently wrong, regardless of time or place? This is just one example among many, many problems with Christianity.
I think it's interesting that you said "I'm not narrow-minded," then followed that by saying, "Your comments won't sway me"—a direct contradiction. All I want to do here is provide a different perspective, and my hope is that you or anyone else reading this will in fact have a mind open enough to consider it.

When refering to not bing narrow minded, I was pointing to fact that I do enjoy the study of other Religions that range from Hinduism to Animism (I Hope I spelt that right... Went to bed at 4 this morning...). Now, the whole Scotsman Fallacy I see where it is and how it's applied, but, Now's here the 'Faith' and 'supernatural' works appear and counter the 'logical' view. Philippians 1:6, "Being confident of this, that He (God/Yaweh) who began a good work in you will carry it on to completion until the day of Yeshua/Jesus." Attending Church and having Bible study regularly does not make a person Christian; just the American version. Personal and real you say? Then, how can you turn away? If the Holy Spirit really did fill you and you loved God with everything, giving your life to him, you wouldn't fall away so easily. As for your Skepticism, they are honest thoughts and questions, along with "Why would God allow children to be ******? Women to be [r]aped?" But, in my opinion, all of those questions can be answered in Genesis. The fall of Man caused the earth and human race to be cursed. It was never meant to be like this. Now we're coming to something I love, The Old Testiment (which really isn't 'old' seeing how it's still in the works...). [S]ex [s]lave passage you pointed out I imididantly turned my Torah to it to read before commenting. First, we have to look at the hebrew traditions at this time. Rabbai comments point out that the Father has the right to sell his daughter off before she reaches puberty, and that the whole thing is to benifit her; either to marry the Master, or his son(s). But, if neither are, then she is set free. And, through my time reading the Torah, I've noticed they don't have marriage cermonys, like Issac and his wife Rebecca; His father's servant brought her to him, they were apparently instantly married, and went to the tent to 'make it offical'. [please wait in responding since I need to write my second reply]

"If she is displeasing in the eyes of her master, who Should Have Designated Her For Himself, he shall as]sist in her redemption; He Shall Not Have The Power to Sell Her To A Strange Man, For He Had Betrayed Her." Exodus 21:8. This can also be seen as a picture of our relationship with God; being sold off to a perfect master and not being pleasing in his eyes. Us humans with spotts and blemishes. But, he redeems us, and he is our BrideGroom. I am fully aware of Yeshua/Jesus coming to fulfill the Old Covinant, and becoming the final sacrifice needed; trust me, I do. 'Christians' today think the Old Testimate is done and over, but it isn't. Now to your other Exodus passage. It looks as if you ignored the first verse and consentraited on the second. "If a man shall strike his sl]ave or maidservant with a rod and he shall die under his hand, he surely will be avenged." Servere beatings are condemed. But, we have to think how he got his Sl.aves. Were they gifts? Were they POWs? What if they were fully rebellious and diserved discipline? So, a parent can discipline his children, but a S.lave in that time who could possibly be rebellious and maybe agressive? I'm anti-Sl.avery. But this is from thousands of years ago, a different time, different Coulter, a different normallity. Time and place are very important no matter what. Romans 4:7 says 'Likewise, my brothers, you also have died to The Law through the body of Christ, so that you may belong to another, to him who has been raised from the dead, in order that we may bear fruit for God" Notice how after the crusifixion [sl]avery began making a turn? And we have to remember that Abraham started the covonate with God that passed down to his decendants. So, because of what God and Abraham did, God may make what ever law to the Hebrews. [Pros]titution is illigal in the US, but alright in European countries; same time, different places, different Laws. What I meant about your comments not swaying me, is that I'm confident.

Also, If I misssplet anyting, I'm sorry. I'm just really, really tired.

But, Let's say god isn't real. We're all an accident of some big cosmic explosion. Does it matter if we believe in a fake god or not? I mean, would be losing anything? No. Now, let's say my God is real. What are you risking? Life after death. As I see it, If Atheists are right, Doesn't matter what I believe. We're all going to meet the same demise. Then if I'm right, well, you get the point Vulpix.

You said a lot, so I'll just address the main points.
1. I never said that attending church and having Bible study makes a person a Christian. I did all the things I needed to do be a Christian according to orthodoxy, including the salvation prayer. I "turned away" because I became skeptical, and eventually I found that there was no way I could logically justify belief in God. It wasn't a choice; I simply could no longer believe because I couldn't believe in something that had zero evidence to support it.
2. Simply repeating the No True Scotsman fallacy doesn't justify it.
3. Slavery: I already addressed the "different time, different culture" problem. Isn't slavery inherently wrong?
4. " If Atheists are right, Doesn't matter what I believe." This is Pascal's Wager: The worst possible apologetic argument. Here are a few of the problems with it: (a) Belief is not a choice. I can't wake up one day and decide to "choose to believe" in Yahweh, Krishna, or the Easter bunny, no matter how hard I try. (b) I'd rather actually believe in what's true than say I believe purely out of self-interest. (c) What kind of a horrible god would reward people that just say they believe to avoid hell? (d) There are a lot of gods out there. You could apply Pascal's Wager to any of them, too. (e) Actually, it *does* matter what you believe because it affects the way you live your life. I prefer to live in reality.

Thank you for setting up point's, it'll be easier for me to write my responses :D One. You see, you are talking to a person who doesn't believe in the Orthodox teachings handed down from the early church, which is why I don't attend church. You may not of said Bible study and church attending makes you Christian, but it was the evidence you were placing out to show you once were, which is why I touched on the subject. The 'Salvation Prayer' I find to be utterly useless; people treat it like a vaccine. "I prayed and asked God into my heart of hearts and I'm saved!" No. Saved by grace, and grace alone. That prayer ruins more people's life than saves them. By taking the Bible literaly, I follow what's inside. That may sound like a contrediction after saying I'm unorthodox. And, there is much evidence for God. Though, there's no way to convince a person of him when the other already does not believe, and or refuses to. Two. It doesn't justify it in opinion, but my qoute does the job to back up my reasoning and counter the The No Scottsman Fallacy. Three. I know you did, which is why I brought up Europe. But the important fact is 'Different Time Different Culture' is important to understanding, no matter what. Back in the days, sleeping with a dog on your bed was wrong. If a girl from today went back in time, what do you think they'd think of her clothing? If I some how was able to play and show a modern FPS game back in the fourtys, what would their reactions be to the [vio]lence? I'm not saying [s]lavery is right, I agreed with you on that point. But, back then, having [sl]aves was also a status symbol. And I already said how the earth is fallen and sinful, which is why all bad things happen in a Christian perspective. [Sl]avery was only for a time. Four. I was making a point, not being apologetic. First, there is always a choice, no matter how you look at it, but like you said it doesn't happen over night. [ran outta room. one moment.]

Though... easter bunny? Don't bring cute mystical creatures into this. Let me ask you this: since you are so convinced your truth is real while all 'religion' is just delusion, how is yours true? If what's true for you is true for you, and what's true for me is true for me; what if my truth says yours is a lie? Is it still true? It works both ways, I know. I hate when people think Christians believe in God just because we don't want to die. You can't just say, "Oh! I believe in God!" And BAM! one ticket to heaven! No, it doesn't work like that. Demons believe in God too, so does the Devil. You believe, love, and follow his comandments and everyday thank him and ask for forgivness. If he made the universe, he can judge anyway he wants. But, Christianity isn't about Heaven or Hell. It's about loving your maker. Out of everything, he could just destroy the universe and start all over. But he doesn't, because he loves us, cares for us stupid little humans. He loved [H]itler too, and Stalin. And Osama Ben Laden. No one is better than the other; all of us should be in hell. Every Pastor, every church member, every person on this planet. As you already know, Yeshua died for that, becoming the final atonment. Giving us the option for redemption. I know there are many gods, mine is different than the others. Lastly, how is your reality the right way? Christianity does make me seperate from 'normal society', but it does no harm. 'Thou shalt not [m]urder' Oh, the humanity. Why can't I? 'Though shall honnor thy mother and father' But I hate the ones who gave birth to me, fed me, and put me through school! 'Thou shalt not commit adultry!' But I wanna have relationships with whoever I want when I'm married! 'Pre-marital [s]ex is bad!' Aw but I wanna sleep with a bazillion people and act like a [pros]titute. I'm only being sarcastic since your making your way of thinking sound like the right way while I'm living a lie. And don't say I'm contredicting myself again, since I'm

only replying to your points.

Dear God, you made me preach... I didn't want to do that....

....I'm probably the only Jew here. 'Nuff said. I don't get why other religions hate each other. God wants us to love, not to hate. What makes me sad is that a lot of conflicts in the world are because their different beliefs, and sometimes it's blamed on the Jews. Oh yeah, i've managed to read the Bible, and the media twists it up. Christianity is about love and brotherhood, not the sick stuff people say. BTW, I love your gallery! -Dolce

Me 2! God bless you all! :D

Everything you're saying here--"saved by grace alone," "all of us should be in hell," etc.--are ideas I heard countless times in church and school, and they're all things I once believed because they were (supposedly) reinforced in the Bible. Yet you still seem to think all of this news to me. No--these were ideas were put into my head, just as they were put into yours--but they were ideas I was able to objectively examine and debunk later in life. Now, given your total lack of understanding of the relatively basic terminology I used, like lower-case orthodoxy and apologetics, as well as your insistence on repeating the same fallacious arguments, I honestly don't think you're intelligent enough to carry this debate further in any meaningful way, so I'll end it here. All I can ask is that you take a step back, do some research, read some books, and keep an open mind.

im christian toooo :) ;D :-)

you've made me come out of my shell. I'M PROUD TO BE A CHRISTIAN!!!! thanks! (i was proud already but i wasn't too sure on whether i should tell other poeple because i was, only one time, cyberbullied on my religion)

i agree this is how i got my BF Brandon i have known him for 10 years and we'er still together!

BlackRoseDragon, When on EARTH does it say that?!
Great Picture! And anyone who is an Atheist is a follower of the Devil.

redclow: It doesn't literery say how old the earth is, they are following the recorded life spans given in Genesis for Adam and such. And, there is no such thing as an Athiest, just selfserving person who refuses to believe. lol According to my favorite Paster Paul Washer XD

I love your painting!! :-D

im agnostic(not sure,no religon)and pretty much everyone i know is christian(mom, friends, family, teachers)and theyrre always forcing me to b christian, like 'god is real, he shal guide u through life' but i dont know that! and my dad is atheist n hes always ALWAYS saying 'gods phony' 'the bible is made by dumdums' so thats why im agnostict..yup, not afraid to tell the world that :)

Utena! You're amazing! You already wrote every point I was going to make! Every religion is NOT equal. Saying they are, even though they contradict each othee, is insulting EVERY single religion. Only one can be true, and I believe it is Christianity. As to the thousand year old earth thing, not every Christian believes that. I don't. It just depends on your interpretation of the word "day" (when God created the world in 6 days). The Hebrew word for day didn't salways mean 24 hours, and also how could there be a "day" before the sun was created?

love it. Nice to see a good christion piece of art!

i LOVE this pic and scince is wrong the Bible is true

I was raised on religious tolerance ;) My parents never brought us up with religion. They wanted us to make our own choices. My father's side is Catholic, he kind of faded out of faith though. My mother and her twin are buddhists, MY twin and I are agnostic, my brother is Atheist, My mother's older sister is christian, and her parents don't giva hoot, and my sister is friends with two shintos and a muslim. Awk, my hand hurts T^T

i believe everyone can choose what religion they wan't... however i am a christian and i also believe that only Jesus can save people from their sins wether they like it or not