Team Magma! by GoldenApolloCovi

Couldn't find a reference for oras uniform so I drew the R/S/E one
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painted on a Nintendo 3DS
18 Jul, 2015, 7:46 pm
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Red99

18 Jul, 2015, 7:53 pm

Welcome to the team. )B j
If you use miiverse, I have an active HQ there. Just look up Red99 and you'll find me. My HQ has the big M on it, so you'll find it in my activitys.

Trans_Princess

19 Jul, 2015, 8:11 pm

BABE WHERE WERE U I WAS SO WORRIED

Based_Diablo

21 Jul, 2015, 12:58 am

RE: Welcome to Team Magma! I appreciate your enthusiasm, and I'd be happy to accept you as my assistant, but unfortunately that isn't my decision to make. Maybe when you reach Corporal rank or higher will you be more opportune to that position. But as far as I'm concerned, you can help me as much as you like!

Based_Diablo

21 Jul, 2015, 1:01 am

As for the HoloMass Projection Console, they are reserved for Leiutenant and Admin ranks only, me being the exception. I have many PokeNav Communication upgrades though, if you really need communucation that badly. I'll send the upgrade chip to your station within the hour.

Based_Diablo

21 Jul, 2015, 1:57 am

Sir Akairo said that you may become an assistant if you'd like. (well, of course you would know, you were part of the conversation.)

oikkun

08 Aug, 2015, 4:50 pm

re: im as.exual but he turns me on in a way

Trans_Princess

25 Jan, 2016, 8:58 pm

Omg thank goodness ur still here ;3;

Witzke

10 Feb, 2016, 3:08 pm

Re: Well, yes. When God made the world, on the 7th day, he rested, so we like to try and take a day to rest too.

wolfapplepancake

04 Mar, 2016, 10:37 pm

so freaken adorable!

wolfapplepancake

16 Mar, 2016, 4:46 pm

re: lol your welcome XD hey you should have watched the playback

Witzke

20 Mar, 2016, 1:59 am

Re: Yes, you're right, Ryulu is a guy. And you're right, mother usually knows what's best! xD

Witzke

28 Mar, 2016, 1:44 pm

Re: Look, I believe in Jesus, and basically, you're telling me not to spread the love of God. I will stand up for my Christ and spread the word, because I love God, no matter what tries to stop me. And I'm aware that the media ha.tes God, it tries to get rid of God and discredit him. That's why Santa exists, that's why the Easter bunny exists. To drive attention away from God on holidays that were made to celebrate him. But that won't stop me from believing and loving God. Besides, GPB made his Pokemon character LGBT, and Pokemon don't do that, so why can't my characters be christian?

(BTW, can you say your name when you're commenting of who's making the comment? Because this account is shared by 3 people and idk who posts what comment.)

Witzke

28 Mar, 2016, 6:37 pm

I don't know where you are getting those ideas from. And I know that Jesus is the Lord. Proof is everywhere! But only if you open your heart to see the truth. Apollo, I want to help you. This isn't the first time we've had a "conversation," and I don't want things to be like this. I care for you, whether you care for me at all or not. You are a human just like me, and God wants us to love everyone, even the people who don't love us back. One thing will not change, I will pray for you and care for you, I will never ha.te you. I will have love for you, and God will always love you too.

Witzke

28 Mar, 2016, 7:00 pm

*Love, like family love : )

Witzke

29 Mar, 2016, 1:07 am

You tried to find 1 bible Chapter that you might be able to bend to prove your point, but there are many many that prove the truth. You may not know, but God wants EVERYONE to be saved. He doesn't want anybody to be lost. That is the reason Jesus dled, was so that everyone could be saved, and forgiven of their sins. He dled fir me, he dled for GPB, he dled for Covi, and he dled, for, you. You may not know, but God loves you. I know God is the true God, because the ways he's worked in my life are undeniable evidence. I could go on and on with proof, comment after comment. But I will put one bit of proof. YOU. You, me, and everything around us are living proof, of God. NO explosion, no primordial soup, no monkeys, could have made all of this. And if aliens did make earth, then who made them? And who made them? The world is proof. The Lord is my God, and through him I have been taught love. Ans the reason I am talking to you, is not to prove you wrong, but because of love.

Witzke

29 Mar, 2016, 1:37 am

I said it before, and I'll say it again. I will never, EVER ha.te you. I would never stone you, I would never kiII you. I would hand you the sword if I could, and you do what you would want with me. But, God loves you, even though you don't love him back, and I will love you, no matter what. Even if you were to cut off my arms, toss them into the fire, lash me, gauge out my eyes, trample all over me, burn all of my earthly possesions, and cut out my tounge, I would still love you, and pray for you.

Witzke

29 Mar, 2016, 1:56 am

*drops stones* I could not, shall not, murder anyone. I will not murder a christian, I will not murder a muslim, I will not murder any believer or non-believer. I would kiII myself, before I kiIIed another human being. I am not forcing you to become a christian or dle, I am merely trying to show you my ways, the ways of my God. My God loves you, and I will love you. I will never, ever, hat.e you.

Witzke

29 Mar, 2016, 2:09 am

But that is the exact opposite of what my God would want. My God would want you to be saved too, everyone to be saved, he wants no sheep to be lost. He wants everyone to make it to heaven, with him.

Witzke

29 Mar, 2016, 2:30 am

"The Lord is not slow in keeping his promise, as some understand slowness. Instead he is patient with you, not wanting anyone to perish, but everyone to come to repentance." 2 Peter 3:9

Witzke

29 Mar, 2016, 2:57 am

No matter what you say or do, I will always love you, and Gid will always love you! I believe in the name of God, that he will help you! I care for you, and for the past 15 minutes, I've been praying, and I will not stop. I will always love you! God has dled upon the cross, for YOU Apollo! He is the amazing Lord, and no one has ever done anything like God. For God so loved the world, that he gave his one and only son, Jesus Christ, to dle upon the cross. He did that, for you, your family, everyone! You can make it to heaven! God put all my sins, all your sins, and everyone who ever has and ever will be born, upon his shoulders! He dled on the cross, he was the ultimate blood sacrifice, to forgive everyone of their sins! All you have to do is let him in! Just, open your heart to him. Ask God, now, please, ask him for forgiveness. God will open his arms to you, he will open the doors to greatness! All you have to do is believe! I believe God will do great things for you, if you only ask.

Witzke

29 Mar, 2016, 3:15 am

Please....

Witzke

29 Mar, 2016, 3:28 am

God didn't murder his son, Jesus sacrificed himself. He could've left at any time, he could have walked away and said "Nope! Ain't doing this," but no, he didn't. Satan even tried to trick him in the desert. He tried several times to tempt Jesus into stopping and joining him, but Jesus resisted! Satan even tried to use verses from the bible to trick him, but Jesus didn't give in. Jesus did not sacrifice himself to make himself exalted, but he was humbled, so WE could be exalted! His love never ends! And I believe in that with ALL my heart!

Witzke

29 Mar, 2016, 3:32 am

When Jesus was getting crucified, this is what he said about the people who put him on the cross, "Father, forgive them, for they do not know what they are doing." Jesus even loved his kiIIers!

Witzke

29 Mar, 2016, 3:35 am

Jesus loves EVERYONE, and just as Jesus loves you, I will love you too, I will not stop, I will pray and pray. I believe, he will break chains, he will bring freedom, and make you glorious... God bless your soul.

-Good night-

Jon Corp Productions

29 Mar, 2016, 4:45 am

Hello there. I've been watching you and Witzke's little debate, and I did not like what I saw. I understand that you don't like his religion, but that shouldn't matter. So what if he has his characters act religious? Why should you care? Why should that drive you to say something that you know is hurtful to him about his religion?
Now, I understand that, while trying to defend his stance, he may have gone a little too far, but that was only because you kept pushing him. I'm sure that if you asked nicely, he would have just left you alone. it might have taken two asks, but I'm sure if you kept your cool about it and just kept asking nicely, he would have left you alone.
Now, I will give you both credit for standing your ground, but I believe that you could've been more mature and less harsh in keeping your stance. Witzke presented his arguments with encouraging words, trying to show that he cared, even if you didn't. But you shut him out, pelting him with harsher and harsher words. Colors is not a community of hatred. It is one where people can express themselves freely, and if one person doesn't like something that someone else is doing, they tell them in a constructive way, not a destructive way.

Jon Corp Productions

29 Mar, 2016, 4:53 am

I would like to request that you apologize to him, for what you said and how you said it. you don't have to do it tonight, tomorrow, or even next week. I would like you to apologize in a sincere way, after the hate has simmered down. I can get him to apologize as well, but I'd like you to be the one to start.
I want you guys to make up, put your differences aside, and become friends. Hatred will get you nowhere in life, and I don't want to see anyone get hurt anymore. You don't have to take me seriously now, but I at least want you to think about what I'm saying for a minute. A good, long minute.
Like I said, I don't want anymore hating going around, and I am willing to be the mediator between you two if you are willing to work something out. Please consider what I've said.
I leave you to judge for yourself what the next action you take will be. Good night.

Jon Corp Productions

29 Mar, 2016, 4:56 am

P.S.
If you are not willing to try to settle things in a calm and dignified manner, I won't continue to pester you about this. Just take the time to think about, okay? I will be waiting for a response, but please, take your time.

Jon Corp Productions

29 Mar, 2016, 2:48 pm

Child, I don't believe a word.
If you don't want to apologize, then that is rather sad. It's not that hard to do. Like I said, I won't pester you anymore since you don't want to try to fix this relationship, but I leave you with these words:
"Hate leads to suffering." Be nice to people, and if you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all (That will apply to your response to this comment. If you won't be nice, don't reply, and I will leave you alone).

Jon Corp Productions

26 Apr, 2016, 7:21 pm

Wow, still the most recent one? Oh well.
Anyway, I thought you were going to leave my brother alone. Quite frankly, I'm saddened to see that you are still clutching to this matter and still moaning and groping about it. You don't like his religion, we get it. Can't you just leave it at that and move on, without continuing to remind us how much you hate it?
Life tends to be much more enjoyable if one can learn to drop the matter and move on.
Forgive and forget, y'know, stuff like that. Hold the grudge if you will, but please just drop the matter, m'kay?

Jon Corp Productions

27 Apr, 2016, 8:19 pm

Still hung up about the 'child' bit, eh? You're quite the stubborn little grudge holder, aren't you?
Well alright then, you may speak to me AND Witzke again once you learn TO change.

Jon Corp Productions

28 Apr, 2016, 6:55 pm

Oh my, that was quick! So Apollo, how was the transformation? Was it hard? Did it hurt? Please tell me all about it, and don't spare the details!
(Sorry pal, but you walked right into that one! : J )

Jon Corp Productions

28 Apr, 2016, 8:01 pm

Kid, you need to learn to enjoy life and have fun once and a while, even with your adversaries.
Also, if you really want to get your message through (or even get me to read your comments anymore), I suggest doing it a more polite and dignified manner (if that's not too hard for you to do, which it shouldn't be. Everyone knows how to be nice, they just don't always remember that it's the best way to handle a situation).
So, ready for take two?

Jon Corp Productions

29 Apr, 2016, 9:46 pm

Look, I'd love to debate with you more on this matter, but
It would seem we are a couple of Zax,
going North and South in Prairie of Prax.
We've blocked each other's tracks,
and refuse to budge unless the other steps back.
Our current approach is getting us nowhere, so we need to either employ a new strategy or agree to disagree and back away slowly.

Jon Corp Productions

29 Apr, 2016, 11:30 pm

Wait a minute, did you say they think you are 'evil'?
What exactly do you use your magic for?

Jon Corp Productions

30 Apr, 2016, 11:07 pm

Is that why you disliked Witzke's Christian attitude, because of some bad experiences you had with some other Christians? Yeah, stuff like that can really ruin it for people.
I have to admit, there are some Christians out there that mean well, but don't go about it the right way. I believe that just because you do witchcraft does not mean you are evil, and that's coming from a Christian.

Jon Corp Productions

01 May, 2016, 12:01 am

Yeah, I know that feeling. When conflicting passions collide, fires are started. Do be careful not to joke about religion like that around him.
And thanks for apologizing, but the one you should really be apologizing to is Witzke (it doesn't have to be now, only when you're mentally ready. Even I have to wait and calm myself down before delivering an apology or accepting one, especially the latter).
And I'm sorry if I said anything to hurt you (I tried not to, but something might've slipped out somewhere).

Jon Corp Productions

01 May, 2016, 12:03 am

And when I say mentally ready, I mean like not angry about it anymore and you feel totally cool with him. Not in any mean or otherwise insulting way.

Jon Corp Productions

01 May, 2016, 12:27 am

Mm, yeah I guess we should give it a couple of days. He's pretty forgiving though, so we shouldn't need more than that.
Y'know, you're not such a bad person now that I've gotten to know you better. I hope next time we meet it will be under...less hostile circumstances. But hey, at least now I can be the mediator if this happens again, right?

Jon Corp Productions

01 May, 2016, 12:56 am

Alright then. Thanks again for being willing to do that! Have a blessed day!

Jon Corp Productions

01 May, 2016, 12:57 am

Er, rest of the day, I guess I should say.

Jon Corp Productions

01 May, 2016, 3:59 pm

Oh hey, one last thing: When you do write up the apology, I suggest keeping it simple to minimize the chances of reigniting the flame. Something along the lines of "I'm sorry for what I said" or "for how I acted" and leave it at that. I'll tell Witzke to do the same when he writes up his forgiveness.
Would you be okay doing that for me?

Witzke

04 May, 2016, 6:28 pm

Re: Apollo...
I forgive you. :) I forgive you for what you said to me. You said some very hurtful things, not just to me, but to God as well. But God wants us to forgive others, no matter what they did to us, even if it is really hard, which, at first, it was. But, I do forgive you, and I know that if you ask God for forgiveness, he will forgive you, and wipe your sins away, forever.

Witzke

04 May, 2016, 6:35 pm

And I'd also, maybe sometime, like to chat with you, if you want to that is. If not, that is alright.

Jon Corp Productions

04 May, 2016, 8:45 pm

Oh, he replied before I could get a chance to tell him to keep it simple. Sorry 'bout that, I was stuck at college.
But again, thanks for doing that! We both really appreciate it! I must admit, through this conflict, I have taken an interest in learning more about you as a person. Perhaps we could meet again sometime.

Witzke

06 May, 2016, 6:47 pm

Re: Ok.

Red99

12 May, 2016, 9:17 pm

Re: That's alright. I understand. : )

Asileeon

18 May, 2016, 2:05 am

Re: Show me the proof.

Witzke

15 Aug, 2016, 7:43 pm

Re: Thanks! Um, sure! Anything on your mind you wanna talk about?

Witzke

15 Aug, 2016, 10:48 pm

Re: Well, I guess my favorite music genre would be 80's pop and, Anime pop? xD

Witzke

16 Aug, 2016, 1:19 am

Re: Ooh, good choices! I don't know much about music when it comes to genres, I just know what kind of songs I like best.

Witzke

16 Aug, 2016, 1:54 pm

Re: Uh, no thanks. I know, what's your favorite game/game genre?

Witzke

17 Aug, 2016, 1:25 pm

Re: Yeah, Pokemon and Platformers are great! But hey, you're not a sc.rew up, it's fine! You should hear my irl conversations, I stutter and I can't explain anything right. And when you said past life experiences did you mean things that happened in your life?

Witzke

18 Aug, 2016, 1:32 am

Re: Oh, ok. I don't believe in reincarnation. But anyways, any other ideas? I'm fine listening to things you've done so far in this life, or if you want to change the subject entirely that works too.

Witzke

18 Aug, 2016, 2:12 pm

Re: I actually get you on the boring thing. Coincidentally, I'm also 17, and I haven't really had a lot of exciting things happen in my life, it just seems, regular. Though, what really can happen given my age and position. Depends on what you considering exciting.

Witzke

18 Aug, 2016, 9:05 pm

Re: Yeah, I bet they do have some interesting stuff, having jobs, living out. Idk I work with my dad a lot if that counts as interesting :P

Witzke

19 Aug, 2016, 2:18 pm

Re: Well, the reason I can help so much is because I'm homeschooled. When I go to college, then that might become dufficult.

Witzke

24 Aug, 2016, 3:03 pm

Re: Really? I don't know a lot of homeschooled people xD But yeah, sorry you have to deal with regular school. One thing though that regular school does better is socialising. Being homeschooled my whole life, I'm kinda shy and don't have mant friends irl. If it weren't for Colors, I'd be really unsocial.

Witzke

24 Aug, 2016, 7:31 pm

Re: I'm sure there are a lot of nice people too, I guess you just have to be in the right batch. I probably would be bullied if I was in school.

Witzke

25 Aug, 2016, 1:25 pm

Re: Well, I'm glad you were able to get in to one of the good ones ^ ^

Witzke

25 Aug, 2016, 10:17 pm

Re: I really hope you can get all of your stuff back! I don't know how that works. I'm assuming that's why you haven't drawn in awhile? Well, I hope you can recover your stuff, so drawing can be fun fir you again ^u^

Witzke

30 Aug, 2016, 3:44 pm

Re: I'm really sorry : C

Don't you still have some paintings saved to your SD card though?

Witzke

31 Aug, 2016, 10:36 pm

Re: I'm really sorry about that. But maybe, you could yse this as inspiration. To start drawing more so you can have stuff to look back on, if you do really want to draw.

Witzke

01 Sep, 2016, 4:01 pm

Re: Oh! HAPPY BIRTHDAY! :DD
I hope you're birthday was fantastical and full of awesome! Happy Birthday!!!

Witzke

13 Oct, 2016, 2:35 pm

Re: Oh. JigSAW. Well that answers that question. Not really sure why they'd call it Saw and not something else but ok. SAWsbuck still works though. It can be like a fake movie. Sounds better than Texas Chainsawsbuck Massacre. Though Chainsawsbuck isn't too bad.

Digital_Wulf

17 Nov, 2016, 7:07 pm

Reply- Jagyra's actually a Jaguar, not a Tiger. But it's nice to see someone actually saw the other pctures! And it's nice to see you're still around too!

Hey Apollo! :D

Digital_Wulf

18 Nov, 2016, 11:17 pm

Reply- I've heard of Doctor Who but I've never watched it before. Sorry. I only really watch Steven Universe or certian stuff when it comes like AHS.

But I do ask, are you gonna get a new Pokemon game?

Jon Corp Productions

14 Dec, 2016, 12:18 am

Hey Apollo, can you help me out for a sec? I'm curious about your holiday celebrations, but am a bit confused as well. Would you mind clearing up some questions I have about atheism for me?
Question: do you celebrate Santa Claus in the winter, or are you unaffiliated with the icon? And a follow-up question: same question, but about spring and the Easter bunny?

Jon Corp Productions

14 Dec, 2016, 10:43 pm

Very intriguing! It's interesting to learn about these celebrations and their significance to you! That does get me wondering though:
Would you say that the aforementioned holiday icons are helpful, hurtful, or neutral when it comes to promoting or even celebrating your festivities?

Jon Corp Productions

15 Dec, 2016, 7:50 pm

I don't know, I'd think if the child grows up and finds out that they aren't real, it'd trigger a loss of trust in the parents, but maybe that's just me.
Anyway, back to the holiday discussion, is there one holiday that has a higher level of importance than the others (or if they're all rather equal, do you have a favorite)?

Jon Corp Productions

17 Dec, 2016, 5:56 pm

Apologies for the slow response, life's been making sure to keep me busy lately.
So, a Day of the Dead kind of holiday instead of Halloween? That sounds nice! I don't really get Halloween; I often wonder who created it and what exactly was going through their head.
Well, I think that answers all my questions for now, but if I come up with more, I know who to call. Lovely talking to you!

Digital_Wulf

21 Feb, 2017, 6:22 pm

Reply- Hey Apollo! :D
Long time no see! How's it been.

Digital_Wulf

22 Feb, 2017, 5:55 pm

Reply- Same here! I've just been busy on Pokemon recentley or working on my future series that I just haven't had time for Colors!3D.

Witzke

26 Jan, 2018, 9:10 pm

Re: Thanks for the dare Apollo!
What do you mean by not get scared though, does the show have a lot of scares?

Witzke

26 Apr, 2018, 4:34 pm

Re: Oh yeah, whoops. I guess he is slightly taller in the pic ^^;

Witzke

26 Apr, 2018, 4:55 pm

Re: Well its not just a normal Victinis height xD If you look at me, his waste is at the same level as mine, which would mean his legs are as long as mine in that drawing. Though, Victeenie HAS been known to use stools in past drawings to seem taller.

Witzke

02 Aug, 2018, 4:14 am

Re: Wow, I really appreciate you saying you respect the creators wishes/cannon of the characters. I was just, surprised to see that, with the way internet culture is xD but I really appreciate that.

Zoaruah is actually in a ship with one of my friend's characters, so he's all ready taken. Mercrow is just a loner xD he'd hate having anyone around him

Witzke

21 Sep, 2018, 12:34 pm

Re: Woah :0 is this for real Apollo? I'm...wow, blown away. But I'm dancing with joy!! :D You're forgiven for any last trouble, but I wasn't holding it against you anyways xD God bless

Witzke

01 Oct, 2018, 5:54 pm

Re: Sorry for the reply stall :b I take Sundays off. Unfortunately I do not have a Discord, and am not allowed to get one.

Witzke

03 Oct, 2018, 8:50 pm

Re: I don't have those either <:/
Also thanks for sharing your thoughts, it's very interesting to hear what you have to say. I'll just offer my own opinions on the matter, not to try and make you think my way, but just so we can see each other's perspectives :b

As for the 7 days thing, I don't technically have any evidence against that, but I believe that it was made in 7 days. Regardless of physics or whatever, God made the rules so he could work with them in any way.

And the Adam and Eve thing. I've actually never heard that idea stated. I also didn't know that inbreeding actually had the consequence (thank goodness it does) as for that though, I do believe they were also the first, because, after Noahs flood they would've had the same problem too technically. God probably allowed it to happen because it had too.

Witzke

04 Oct, 2018, 2:33 am

Re: Well, one, that has nothing to do with homosexuality, it's only about judging, and by those standards, that means it's fine for rapers to rape because your "judging their lifestyle," if you say it's bad. And there's a difference between judging and pointing out something. Not a very good verse to use to defend Homosexuality, just saying
Be careful not to misuse verses.

Witzke

04 Oct, 2018, 3:39 am

RE: Sorry for using extreme comparison. But if you excuse one thing, why not excuse another? Also, you kind of just condemned your arguement. You made a list of verses you are ltterally discounting. Thats not how it works. YOu can't discount certain verses to form your own point, you have to take in to consideration ALL verses, or else you're only living half of a truth. And God loves gays, I never said he didn't. But there IS a right and wrong in life, and there is a thing as unhealthy actions. Sexual Immorality is listed as an action of the flesh in Galations, and you can't live fully for God if you live in the flesh.

Also, if this debate continues, could we continue it here? I'd rather not fill my newest painting with this stuff. It doesn't need to be in front of everyone.

GoldenApolloCovi

04 Oct, 2018, 4:21 am

@Witzke Then are you ok with people following the verses as follow.
Psalms 137:9
1 Samuel 15:2-3
2 Kings 2:23-24
Exodus 21:15
Leviticus 20:9
Exodus 12:29-30
Hosea 13:16
Numbers 31:17-18
Leviticus 21:9
1 Samuel 15:3
Leviticus 20:13
Genesis 9:5-6
Joshua 6:20-21
Deuteronomy 21:18-21
Leviticus 24:10-16
Hosea 9:11-16
2 Kings 19:35
Exodus 32:26-29
Exodus 23:7
Deuteronomy 18:20-22
Leviticus 26:21-22
Leviticus 20:10
1 Samuel 15:1-35
Deuteronomy 13:13-18
Leviticus 20:27
Romans 1:24-32
Jeremiah 50:21-22
Jeremiah 7:31
1 Kings 14:9-16
Deuteronomy 17:2-5
Deuteronomy 13:7-12
Exodus 22:19
Isaiah 13:16
Exodus 21:12
Deuteronomy 13:1-6
Deuteronomy 7:2
Deuteronomy 17:12
and No Exodus 20:13 and Deuteronomy 5:17 by your logic doesn't negate these. Just saying. Most if not all of these have in common that they have to do with putting someone to death in some way.
-Apollo

Witzke

04 Oct, 2018, 11:25 pm

Well, first off, you only took verses from the old testament, which was the old covenant.

Secondly, you are taking these verses out of their original context by separating them.

And thirdly, yes, sadly, they did have to kill people who ere causing too much trouble. Because of two reasons. One, Jesus had not yet defeated death and opened up his promise to the gentiles, and two, if you see a Hitler running around, if he ain't gonna reason and just cause trouble, then it's either hundreds or him

GoldenApolloCovi

04 Oct, 2018, 11:56 pm

First of all Romans is the New Testament, second don't pull that old testament crap because you said we can't pick and choose what verses we follow, thirdly the whole context argument is a fallacy because Christians do it all the time, even you yourself has done it, and lastly that argument doesn't justify those verses, if anything it makes them all the more egregious. I'm sorry witzke but you're really not helping your case here.
-Apollo

Witzke

07 Oct, 2018, 2:09 am

Well, from my point of view, you're not helping your case either :/ We're both not gonna give in to each others arguements I can tell.

I did NOT say we didn't have to follow those ones because we don't choose to. I said those verses you picked were very situational and were assigned to very specific situations and battle, and peoples long since dealt with by the people who were chosen to deal with them. God told them to follow that, so they did, but that wasn't a message for us, it was for them. If you read my post better, you would've understood my pint instead of pretending I'm being a hypocrite.

Theres a verse I'd like to bring up though

Galatians 5: 14-16
"For the entire law is fulfilled in keeping this one command: "Love your neighbor as yourself." If you bite and devour each other, watch out or you will be destroyed by each other. So I say, walk by the Spirit, and you will not gratify the desires of the flesh."

I don't find this debating very fun because it just feels like we're argueing. This is just dragging me down and I don't think either of us are going to change our views. I think we just need to love each other and just not argue like this. I don't think God would want us to act like this

GoldenApolloCovi

07 Oct, 2018, 3:33 am

Sorry, but that's a very weak counterargument that dodges what was presented, especially since you tried to defend yourself by saying I missed your point, when you failed to properly convey that point, if you don't want to be seen as a hypocrite then convey your point without leaving anything out, otherwise your counterargument will be viewed as hypocritical if it's presented in a way that can be interpreted as such. Also debating is arguing, but just know that I don't believe homose'xuality is a desire of the flesh because if that were the case, so would heterose'xuality you can't have one be one way, and the other a different way, because that's like saying people choose to be gay, or someone saying being straight is choice because it just doesn't work that way. God, and Jesus love gays, and trans people, and never intended for their lives to be viewed as sin, because he intended for certain lifestyles to be set at birth, and others that can be changed, with gender, and se'xuality being set at birth, and unable to be changed. I'll end the debate off with that, and will post another comment to lead into a more casual discussion that I hope to God won't devolve into yet another debate.
-Apollo

GoldenApolloCovi

07 Oct, 2018, 3:35 am

On a lighter note, I've been thinking about becoming a nun.
-Apollo

Witzke

07 Oct, 2018, 9:40 pm

I'm sorry I'm so bad at debate. Clearly, it's not what God has called me to do. I've tried in the past but I've always failed, where others have succeeded. I seem to only be good at keeping peace, but my temper flares easily when I feel challenged.
I found someone else's article, that explains my viewpoint IOOOOOOO times better, so you can see that it you want to test your own viewpoint

https://www.focusonthefamily.com/about/focus-findings/sexuality/10-things-everyone-should-know-about-a-christian-view-of-homosexuality

Anyways, that's an interesting thought. I'm not a Catholic, so I don't know how it works, but I'll pray God helps guide you the right way nvn

GoldenApolloCovi

07 Oct, 2018, 11:03 pm

What kind of protestant are you? Baptist, Lutheran, Anglican, Calvanist, Methodist, or Presbyterian?
-Apollo

GoldenApolloCovi

07 Oct, 2018, 11:08 pm

Anyways here's an article that explains my view.
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/adam-nicholas-phillips/the-bible-does-not-condemn-homosexuality_b_7807342.html
-Apollo

GoldenApolloCovi

20 Oct, 2018, 3:54 am

And here's another article, that also details my side of the argument, just know that I don't want to continue the argument just want to provide understanding.
http://time.com/2842044/gay-christians/
-Apollo

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