To all my friends here- Once the Online Gallery opens in FS3D i will not post/view Colors! anymore. The only reason i stayed was because of friends but now i can move to a Free app with Safe Fun for Everyone. My Flipnote name will be Lightningrod or _Lightningrod_ or shortened like my Colors! name. But due to a promise i made 2 years ago to my bro he is getting the Club Nintendo code first. So i will only quit Colors! when i get a code. Now i will post a goodbye in this paintings comments once i transfer. Good Luck you guys and happy drawing!...

Hate to burst your bubble, but there are no online features in the west and Nintendo has NO plans to release them, so no. You aren't tranferring anywhere.

Also, every single bit of "gay crud" will be made there too, mate.

^ Like we care about your cousins sexuality.

^re: According to Nintendo there will be a Friends Gallery. IDC about world gallery. (Oh and Hom'ophobic means "One who is afraid of a person of hom'ose'xual affiliations." Ya im not scared of Hom'os XD i just dont like the first thing i see when i log in to Colors! is a Yaoi "se'x" scene.

So Flipnote will be free? I thought it was going to cost money. I'll try to get it, but we've been short on cash here for a while and I still don't have a Nintendo ID, so it may not be right away. I'd stay here too though because I like the 3D coloring, have a few friends left (though sadly most have left...), have BFZ, and have a list of people waiting to collab with me on art. Though, on a personal note, I don't want you to feel like you're leaving on a bitter note, which is the sense I get from your description. Maybe I'm sensing it wrong. I'll admit I don't look at the gallery as much as I used to, but the things you mention seem extremely uncommon. Maybe they stand out to you more or you come across it more than me? I'm extremely offended by blo.od and g.ore, but I've found I can avoid those. Anyway, I hope to hear from you again at least once before you go. Sadly, without a working computer, our ways of communicating are limited.

^Ehh RR if this is the only way to contact u i will still check. FS has a 3D effect plus if it ment communicating with ya i'll pay flr your subscription ;). But the stuff i mentioned in my description is NOT uncommon in the least. Just checked the Gallery before i commented this. 13th painting was Yaoi. Im just tired of it man... So ya i'll still send YOU messages since ur my Best Friend. :) And ps- IDK what BFZ means XD

Part of being a Christian means to avoid a dirty mind which is hard if p0rnistic drawings are ALL OVER COLORS!3d...

It looks like I might need a Nintendo ID, which I still haven't created. I know, I'm like the only person who hasn't. :P If only people hadn't taken rogueranger and rogue-ranger and rogue_ranger. :/

I don't have time to go much beyond my feed (the paintings that load when you log in) and even that I miss a lot of paintings. I don't subscribe to that many people, so I have no idea how those people do it who subscribe to like a thousand people! <_< But maybe you can stick to your feed and the galleries of people who comment on some painting you like. I'm not trying to make up excuses for you to stay just to be selfish and keep you here. I don't want to intentionally make you do anything you don't want to, but I think it could be possible to avoid things more than you have been. It's just an idea.

Oh, and BFZ is short for Bully Free Zone, that separate account I set up here on Colors ( #BFZ) for people to get advice on bullying issues. It receives requests for advice regularly still.

Ya. I just honestly dont like the kind of people that use this app(The majority around 75percent). My Nintendo Network ID is permanently banned on Miiverse so i dont really have alot of friends to talk to. To be honest im glad Nintendo is strict in a way. It prevents junk like people post up here from happening and if it does the user gets banned. PS- Oh try _Rogue_Ranger_ or Rogue!Ranger . :]

Oh, you can use exclamation marks? Thanks, I'll have to try that! :3 How did you get perminantly banned though?

I spent two hours going through new paintings as they came in and only managed to find one painting that might be considered yaoi. At least I think they were both males kissing. Now, maybe it's the time I was doing it, but I've been thinking about this for a while. It seems like you naturally come across gay things more than most people. I've already suggested that it stands out to you, but I think it may be that God is intentionally putting things in front of you. Since you're not gay, it's not for temptation. It's for something else. And I doubt it's just to annoy or disturb you. Maybe consider this: 90 plus percent of the people I talk to on Colorsare really friendly people and we've talked and even made art together. But you say that you don't get along with 75 percent of the people you encounter on here. Maybe there's a con.nection between those two things. What do you think? What if you're supposed to talk to people who post gay art and make friends with them?

4 People i work with are gay. All women but still. And it maaaay have to do with the fact my Colors!3d account is set to enable 18Plus paintings... It wont let me remove it... I assume its cuz im almost nine-teen but idk. But ya here i cant get away from Yaoi/Yuri idk how u never see it. :/ Anyway im just thinking its safer for my mind to avoid it. PS- I got banned from Miiverse for multiple months of posts. The final straw was this- I got mad that "The Legend of Korra" Finale's final scene was a Soft-Yuri scene with Korra and i got upset and said this- "Man i hate that they put Yuri in TLoK" Some Guy got ticked off, reported me and boom im done. Apparently any negativity on Miiverse is banned. I remember i got two week banned for saying i hated Duck Hunt in Smashbros. !

So, avoid hating anything, especially a Nintendo product in a Nintendo forum? Good to know. Though, as you know, I avoid hate in any form. Even if you hate things or actions, the hate is still in your heart and it will draw negativity to you. If I were you, I'd try to move toward "dislike" rather than "hate" or even "strongly dislike" in the future.

Every time I've talked with the Colors staff, they've been really helpful, so I'd recommend emailing support at collectingsmiles.com and saying that you can't set your account back to "hide mature paintings" and they can not only do it for you, but maybe even identify if there's an issue with the software not letting people change it. I know from conversations with them that the bar for "mature" is anything not suitable for general audiences. Since anyone of any age can visit the website or view the gallery, mture hides the paintings that are deemed 13 and up, for those who create accounts only. They have a very small staff, so they rely

on users reporting. Nintendo has devoted a lot into their Miiverse that Collecting Smiles just can't. Also, Nintendo is stricter in general. They never did find anyone under 7 who had vision problems from the 3D, but decided to play it safe by putting the warning.

I'm partly shocked that you work with 4 separate people who happen to be gay (though female se.xuality is fluid, so they may not be only into their own gender) and partly not surprised. My mixed reaction is because I almost never encounter any gay people. It's extremely rare for me as well as for most people I've talked to, but you're like a magnet for it. I really strongly believe it can't just be a coincidence. Either you exagerate how much you come across gay people/art or there's something more at play. Maybe it goes back to using the word "hate". You may feel negative emotions toward people who are gay. After all, it's hard for humans to separate actions from people. That's why we often call people by what they do.

For example, firefighter, alcoholic, etc. But we have to learn to look past that and love everyone, even our enemies. If at all possible, live at peace with everyone. Maybe somewhere deep inside there's a part of you that God's trying to chip away at, something holding you back from absolute love. You might not even be aware it's there. It could be burried deep. But I don't think it's coincidence. I'm not a mind reader though, so it's all speculation. :3

I use the word hate in a Extreemly Dislike form. Ya know not really "hate" but its just a force of habit to say it. :p Oh im definitly not exagerating anything. Actually found that alot of hom'os are moving to NC to change its anti-hom'o laws. Worked sadly cuz of the stupid courts not the people but hey the worlds only gonna get worse anyway. There may be a downside to looking past a person though. Betrayal. If you are not careful who u assosiate with you could face dire/grave consequences. Doesnt mean to hate em tho. Actually ur suppose to love your persecutors. There is however one catch. Lucifer and Demons still roam the earth similar to Angels. Certain people i've met have had demons. Anyway bro im not laying excuses but sin makes me angry. In ANY form. Even through myself...

Jesus as.sociated with what were considered the undesirables of the time and, yes, he was betrayed and even crucified, but showing everyone, even those not looking for it at the time, love was worth it. And, remember that He cast out demons. There are only two reasons someone can see demons; because they themselves have a demon in them, or because they posess the ability to cast them out. Which do you think is you? Maybe instead of avoiding your fear, you should confront it. Pray for strength and wisdom in this department and maybe you'll discover you have a mission you never knew you did.

I was going to ask about Flipnote. I didn't see anything in the eshop, so I don't know where people are getting their info from. I want to finish my animation here on Colors about how to make smooth 3D before people leave, so do you know the launch date?

Btw, I'm not saying I know you can cast out demons. There may be a third posibility I don't know. After all, I don't know everything! :P Though I very much doubt you're being surrounded by people who are gay just to frustrate you. There's probably something you need to have your eyes opened to. It may be really obvious, but only after you see it, kind of like when you learn a new word and suddenly you hear it everwhere.

Flipnote Studio is coming out via Club Nintendo code. Its simple to get an account. Go to www.clubnintendo.com, hit sign up, create your account, check your To-Do list, see Flipnote Studio 3D, hit it, hit "Get download code", put code in on eShop and download, boom your done. :] Hurry tho because it stops soon. They havnt added it yet but will be very soon.

And ya i know Jesus gives us the power to cast out demons. Its just kinda scary to get close to one man. Your blood feels like ice and you cant stop shaking... I know im not suppose to fear them but they are very terrifying... :(

Heh look at me, almost 19 and telling my best friend im scared of demons. Sounds childish but its the truth. Knowing they exist is one thing but seeing a person suffering because of one is another...

Reply Idk... Flipnote Gallery World isn't on it so...Idk...

ohhh.....

I don't know if I already have a club nintendo account, so I'll have to look into that. The website has had a lot of traffic today, but I'll let you know if/when I have it. And I'll try to get that animated 3D tutorial done asap before more people abandon Colors.

My dad is incredibly scared by spiders, even little harmless ones, so being afraid of demons, which are a million times scarier, is certainly nothing to feel bad about. Just remember that we're not given a heart of fear, but courage. The fear tells you there's danger, so be cautious. Again, I don't know everything. I can't see them, but I think God will show you what to do. Unfortunately, that's an area I know very little about, but I do know that there's no question who's stronger. Through faith, the power of Christ makes all things possible. Obviously, you already know this, but sometimes, when it comes to fear, it helps to keep being reminded. :3

I got Flipnote! Though I only see a way to share flipnotes with someone nearby and claim ones from the DS. I guess more features are coming later. I wish there were more colors, but I'm sure I can come up with some animations. :3

Yea an Online Gallery should come later. :]

Do you happen to know when the online gallery will be up? I guess I can wait so I have actual content to put there when the time comes. At least it's actually MADE for animating. I've been animating using Colors, which isn't really made for it, but I think I made it work (I FINALLY finished and uploaded the animated 3d tutorial). It's not easy using Colors as an animation program though! XP

I saw your comment on "Just Because He Breathes" and I think it would be good for you to watch them tell their story. It's a little over a half an hour, so I don't know if you consider that short or long. If you'd prefer, though, I'll make it brief. :3

Obviously, on Colors I can't say too much in the description or the painting would be flagable (even saying "Christian" could be flagable as bringing up religion). It's the story of parents of a son who tells them he's gay but doesn't want to be and their struggles to find a faith that lets them love their son not because he's gay or straight, but just because he exists. They may have lost their son to drugs, but they help other parents not make their mistakes. Many parents forsake Christ's teachings and disown their children if they come out as gay, which can lead their children down a dark path. What we all need is love and to never turn our back on someone who's struggling.

Colors Gallery finally works again! I couldn't get on yesterday and this seems to be our only way to communicate. It's possible that Nintendo is worried about Flipnote overwhelming their servers with use and the server crashing. Well, I'm not that knowledgable of servers, but I think that's how it could work.

I know were your coming from and understand my point plz. You know i believe Hom'ose'xuality/Gay attractions is a sin right? Its what God has spoke to me. And sin is equal under all cercumstances except violating God's temple right? Well lets create my own little story shall we? Its similar but different. And im NOT trying to be mean or anything but its just how i view things.

Suppose there is this boy. And all his life he has kept a "dark" secret from everyone. Suppose it was Animalphila. Well he has only shared it with his friend who also feels that way. Well one day he decides to tell his parents and they immediatly disown him. Were they wrong for doing so? Lets look at the facts- bea.stiality is equal to hom'ose'xuality as it is a se'xual sin, he kept it hidden, and thought the if he could express himself he would be free right? Well he should. But life doesnt work that way. What a parent in that cercumstance should do is pray and train the boy to think differently (kinda like a parole officer can train a mu'rderer{another sin} to not kilI, or a drug addict to stop taking pot). See my point. People are NOT born with physical sinful desires but it is a trait that can be obtained easy if ur not careful. Rememver this phrase i made up and use- "There is always a root were a seed was sown." Meaning everything in our minds had a beggining or start point.

I know how you see that particular topic and that no two people can always agree. We have different ways of seeing things based on various circumstances. I just try to put forth ideas that you may have overlooked, since obviously none of us know everything. I also know that, because of the kind of responses you've gotten in the past, you might feel like everything you say could be considered mean or offensive, but I hope you know that you can't hurt me. Even if you tried on purpose to be mean (not that you would), I'd just forgive you. You're my friend and I care about you and I know you care about me too. We don't even have to talk about hom.ose.xuality. It just seems to come up a lot, so I thought there must be some purpose. I'm very much into the idea that, although we have free will, God doesn't just abandon us to our whims, but is always there to guide us. Maybe it's wrong that guidance can come even when we don't ask for it, but that's just what I currently believe.

I personally believe it would be wrong to disown him, because they wouldn't be able to help him if they kick him out. It's like the story of the prodigal son. His father didn't kick him out. He left to follow his own path. In a way, it's like the story of Ryan, from Just Because He Breathes. When they finally hear from their son after 6 months of nothing, the first thing he asks is if they can ever forgive him and love him, and they say of course they forgive him and love him. Some of us do need to learn the hard way, but if the child leaves on his own, he is far more likely to return than if the parents kick him out. Also, living on the streets is dangerous.

Also, I think it could be anything, really. If someone hates themself for something they did or just feel, that can turn down a dark path of self destructive behavior. After all, if you hate yourself, don't you deserve to hurt yourself? As Christian parents, they can help prevent this path by showing a picture of Christ's love, by saying that they love and forgive their child no matter what and that Christ's blood covers all. If the Creator of the universe can forgive him, then surely he shouldn't keep hating himself. We can't undo the past, but we can make a better future. I just want everyone to see that it's possible to have that future and not feel so hopeless they ki.ll themselves.

I do see were ur coming from. There are however humans who literaly love sin. Like murderers who "live" to murder. Some even "love" it so much they eat their victims... Yes its sick but so are alot of people. Here is a very useful sentence that can identify you in public. "You are known by the company you keep..." that can define who you are in others eyes. Here is an example- Although i'd LOVE being physical friends with u and "hanging out" i would not tell anyone u believe ur gay or as i like to view you (undecided). Just so that people would not avoid me or attract hom'ose'xuals to me ya know. I still plan on visiting u in reality when ya know i get my own house and enuff money. :p Just dont let persuasive videos encourage sin. Remember sin works in mysterious ways aswell as God does. Just distenguish the good and right from enjoyable but wrong.

I've stated this hundreads of times with you but i will state it again. A person is not written in stone. Anyone can change. Its turning from the path you took thats the hard part. Humanity wants to sugar coat it and make it sweet but its only destruction underneath...

Idk if ur parents are allowing you to go to a college but might i recommend one? Liberty University. I wonder if ur parents would let u try a CFAW(college for a weekend) session? Its only 50 bucks and u stay at college with dorm and meals and classes included for 4 days. Im planning on going again soon as i just got back. Now that i think about it this is a PERFECT oppertunity to meet up with you in person! the age limit is sixteen and above. I wonder if u could attend? The school is GREAT! Its an entire christian school with no cursing or se'x allowed and the people there are sooo nice!

It is in Virginia tho but im sure ur parents would LOVE to here u want to test out a Christian university. :D

Wow, that does sound like a great idea and price. I'll have to look into it. I think the hard part would be getting across the country (and probably meals, since I'm allergic to everything XP). Also, my parents are paranoid of "stranger danger" (which is why I never give out personal info online, even my first name). Though, can you believe the fa.rthest east I've been is Nevada? I've been up to Washington, but even that isn't that far. Someday I would like to see more of the country and even the world. I was trying to convince someone recently of all the beauty in nature because they're so caught up in allthis concrete artificialness. Even humans' best creations can't compare to God's most basic ones.

I think we're just focusing on two different types of people. People who are prideful or arrogant are not ready for help. But, at least for me, I seem to come across a lot of people who feel shame or self hatred and those people can be helped immediately. I guess you could say it's the difference between repentence and an unrepentant heart. It's not that they need to feel convicted first. They already do. They need to hear that God gave His only Son to wash away their past and make them new. They don't have to hate themselves for anything they did or thought of doing. Once they find peace, it is transformative. That's how I believe people change and their hearts open. I don't feel that telling someone to hate a part of themselves is an effective path to salvation, especially since people tend to do that already. Also, pain can make people close off to others and we want them to open up and not harm themselves. But, again, this would not be effective where pride is involved.

Well, Jesus kept some company the religious leaders of the time disapproved of and used it to judge Him, but many times the people most in need are those who are rejected by others. Imagine if Jesus avoided the leppers, the blind, the crippled the way so many others did. We would call that uncaring. So how is it any different if the healing they need is emotional or spiritual instead of physical? Even if you believe that attractions are sinful, what would have happened if Jesus avoided the woman caught in adultry? It was that act of compassion that saved her and opened her to hear his words "go and sin no more." Jesus taught that we would keep the commandments if we were filled with love. After all, you won't ki.ll, lie to, or steal from someone you love as yourself. Also note that "love your neighbor as yourself" means we can't hate ourselves. People who feel miserable spread misery, but people who love spread love.

As for the video, I don't think it encourages sin. Obviously I think the parents were way to hard on themselves and their self hatred can't cure their son's self hatred, but their reaction is very typical for humans. What I find redeaming is that they talk about unconditional love, like the love that nothing in heaven and earth can separate us from. Basically, they're imperfect, but they're trying. And I think it's very moving when the mother says how they prayed to not have a gay son and that prayer was answered and they regretted it. We really struggle in this life and make so many mistakes, which is what makes God's love so much more necessary. It's not like watching parents explain how they lost their son encourages sin. Their son prayed and prayed so hard for years to have his attractions removed. He put so much passion and hope into that, that when God didn't change him, he felt such depression and even anger. This is an all-too-common problem.

Rather than praying for God's will to be done in his life, he prayed for what he thought was God's will. The problem with praying for things we want is that we don't really know what's best for us. I see that also in the parents' prayers. They were all well-meaning, of course, but we see how it worked out in the end. The thing is, through all the mistakes, God can use them as a lesson to others, because we all make mistakes. If they had said "we love you AND want you to do this" instead of "we love you BUT we want you to do this", maybe things would have been different, but no one can change history. Instead, all we can do is try to prevent others from following a destructive or even fatal path. Whether you believe his attractions were harmful or not, you must admit his hatred of those attractions ended up harmful. The reason "love the sinner, hate the sin" isn't in the Bible (though many people think it's from there) is because we're not God. If we hate something, hate spreads.

I agree that people can change. I'm sure I've told you before how much I've changed and I think you've seen it over time too. Also, I believe love is transformative because true love is of God. It's not that I don't believe in change, but that we take different approaches. You believe change leads to salvation and I believe salvation leads to change. Since, for most people, human se.xuality is broad, it's possible to change or refocus. People can have a different favorite color at different points or different favorite songs, and they can have different attractions. I've long suspected you're either mostly ase.xual or bise.xual because of how you view se.xuality, but I'm not closed off to any change that's in God's will. I'm just not going to pray what I THINK is God's will, only for it to be done and me to better know it. For me, though, my attractions are a small part of a very filled life. I'm not perfect, but I won't hate myself for being human, only try to love more.

I feel like my life has been very blessed. You might say, "But you were bullied", but people are bullied for pretty much anything. I see this all the time with Bully Free Zone, everything from hair color to the price of the clothes they wear. But, any challenges I may have faced have only strengthened me and made me more empathic to others. I'm more inclined to help others than people who have never struggled and so can't understand the suffering of others. I also understand what it's like to be different. These are all valuable lessons. If I were just meant to overcome some se.xual desire, lusting after a bunch of females would have done the job. In fact, since it's easier for males to find females attracted to them, I'd say it would be more challenging. But, instead, I've learned to love others and empathize with their feelings. Many people are bothered by seeing their parents kiss or show affection for each other, but, when I catch those moments with my parents, it's beautiful.

Seeing how much they love each other is enhanced by the love I have for both of them. Also, they met as children and have been together ever since. This is rare and I know many people don't have parents like this, so I treasure that all the more. Struggles grow wisdom to better appreciate the beauty of the world and love those in it. And, yes, sometimes this love can be expressed physically. I wonder how you would react if I hugged you. There would be nothing se.xual about it, but I think you'd somehow worry there is. Sometimes people need to be held or comforted or just shown how much you care. I've hugged friends, family and relatives, but I can sense right away when someone's not comfortable with affection. It doesn't mean that the hug was wrong since the motives were pure. There is a vulnerability that comes from letting someone touch you, but because we struggle in life, sometimes we need to cry in our grandmother's arms instead of a pillow to find comfort. We're not alone.

I still think you shouldn't be trying so hard to avoid "hom.ose.xuals". Sometimes you act like your life is controlled by Satan, always trying to taunt or tempt or trick you at every turn, but it shouldn't be. Christ should have power over your life and everything should work together for the good of those who love God, who are called according to His purpose. Satan didn't blind Saul and make him Paul. God may place circumstances in our life that we don't think should be there, but we shouldn't automatically just as.sume they're from Satan and not consider that God could be trying to teach us something or to use us in some way. If you avoided all "hom.ose.xuals", we never would have met. There are so many potential callings in your life that some may surprise you. I feel like one of my callings is trying to help people on here. I could have given up when I saw how many people are sui.cidal for fear it might bring me down, but saving lives means dealing with broken people.

Eh, I'm sorry I went on so long! -_-;

Hmm i do see were ur coming from but im as strait as they come. :p A'se'xual means- Reproducing by use of oneself. Yea i cant get myself pregnant XD. And i do hate how u suspect i would be bi... That kinda hurt since u know how i feel on those matters... :( But aside from that nothing will change my faith or beliefs on God's design. Life sometimes is simple- Black/White or Right/Wrong. We tend to over-examine life and thats what leads to controversy. I can never accept alternate se'x attractions as a part of someone. To me the science,Word, and my own prayers lead otherwise. Yes some things are unique about people but that just isnt one... Im kinda frustrated now not at you but i've had a long 10 hour work day and got another one tomorrow so im gonna leave this at that for now. I'll say more when i cool cuz u know how i get when im first offended. Ttys.

I'm really sorry! I never meant to offend you. I'm hoping it's just overwork. Is there another shift you could work instead? Sure, this society makes us need money, manage our time, etc, but you need to consider your health and physical wellbeing too. I hope you're able to sleep well and recover. *sending prayers your way*

Btw, your thinking of ase.xual reproduction. Ase.xual just means non-sexual, the way athiest mean non-theist. Ase.xual reproduction is reproducing without se.x and ase.xuality means having very little or no se.x drive. The reason I suspected this is that you see se.xuality sort of like Paul from the Bible. He never married and said it's better for men not to marry, that they should only marry if they can't control their lust. This implies he had a low enough se.x drive to feel he could handle it without any temptations to even lust in his mind. Although I've only ever known people who are attracted in some way to both genders to describe attractions the way you do, I still think it's more probable you just don't have a high se.x drive. I could be wrong of course and you could just really avoid talking about your attractions by talking about everything else. But then why would se.xuality bother you so much? You can't even say bi without using the word hate in the same sentence.

If you said that you suspected I was a serial ki.ller, I would ask why you thought that, but I wouldn't be offended since I'm obviously not one. If I had finished painting my house blue and someone claimed it was orange, I wouldn't be angry. Once you're more rested and feeling better, you may see it differently. But, if you still feel offended by the thought, then you'd have to ask yourself why it bothers you so much. All those politicians who fought to pass "anti-hom.ose.xual" legislation all turned out to be self-hating hom.ose.xuals. So, if you feel strongly against se.xuality in general, it could be a sign that you hate the fact that you have se.xual desires. I suppose that would explain a lot, moreso than having few desires. But, if you let hate fester in your heart, it will destroy you. I hope I'm wrong, but only you can answer that. Also, I find it interesting that most of the "hom.ose.xuals" you know are females. There must be some reason for that.

Controversy and disagreements don't necessarily come from over-examining life. As humans, we are limited in what we know, so we all have incomplete pictures and each of those pictures is different. It's like if you were facing the sunset and said the sky's orange and I was facing the other way and said the sky's dark blue. We're both right, but neither of us sees the whole truth. If you only see black and white, it doesn't mean there are no colors. Humans only see a fraction of the light spectrum. The world is full of variety, wonder and diversity. None of us can know or understand everything. Even Christians disagree on the truth. During the abolishionist movement, Christians used passages from the Old and New Testiments that allow and regulate slavery against those who used passages about all believers being equal. During the sufferagist movement, verses were used both to fight against and for women having rights.

I won't claim I have the answers, but, from my perspective, I see the overriding message of the Bible being love. But maybe that's what I chose to focus on. It's ironic that you come across female hom.ose.xuals, something the Bible never mentions directly in a negative way. If it were exclusively male hom.ose.xuals, I can see it being used to strengthen your resolve. Though, if you're working on Saturday, you're already doing something deserving of death according to the same book of the Bible that says se.x between men deserves death. I suspect you'll keep being challenged until you are forced to rethink your views. Who knows how long that will be though. I'm really squeemish about cu.tting, but I've come across a lot of people who self-harm and I'm still trying to find ways to help them. What they do may be considered sinful, but I feel God's drawing me to help them. Could the same be true of you and "hom.ose.xuals"?

Dude people have looked at my life style and called me that my whole life! I cant stand it when people call me names. To me its like someone calling u an idiot. Do you get offended by it? Dont you know your not? So theres back-up on my statement. I view it to me as cruelty... I know ur not trying to say it that way but when someone says they suspect ur like something and u know ur not u get ticked-off. Im not yelling... I have had another long day and got another one tomorrow... Literaly i came home and tried to nap and my mom fussed at me for being lazy and made me babysit til i had to go to bed for real...

You are incorrect on a few things however. The Saboth(Forgive spelling) day is on Sunday. Remember Jesus renewed the old law and said work is fine just remember its the saboth. Also female hom'ose'xuality is explained as evil aswell in Romans chapter 1. God does not condemn people of death anymore becuz Jesus brought life. Remember even tho its good to read the old testiment the new one is our new guide. (Excluding 10 commandments). And no im not being a know-it-all im just explaining passages u missunderstood. And u are also wrong in how the Bible has been changed. The ORIGINAL Bible has never been changed. Its in Hebrew but u can look up direct translations on Google. Ugh i gtg to bed cuz i got work from 6am-8pm... night...

Oh and about me being a "hater". Remember its FINE to hate sin. Se'xual sins are sins so ya i HATE them... :'(

Please understand im not fussing at you. Im human. You are my best friend. You must know my beliefs in order to understand me. I have tried my best not to insult you. And dont worry about anything you say to me. Just i would prefer... you not call me Bi but maybe a little ase'xual in thought but my Number 1 goal in life... is to have a family and be a true father. The reason God made us attracted in the first place... before... Lucifer per'verted it...

That's what I'm trying to do, to understand you. It might be obvious to you because you're you, but I don't have a lot to go on so I try to put pieces together. I'm a naturally curious person and I try to figure out why people think or do what they do in order to understand them. I wonder if I'm as much of a mystery to you. Also, I care about you and so I try to figure out why certain things concern you so much. It's like a mystery, but I feel like I can't help you until I solve it. I see that you're troubled, but I guess I just can't put all the pieces together if I'm missing most of them. Still, I want to help. It concerns me not only that you are so offended by certain things, but that you still feel hate for sin. It's like someone mur.ders your friend and you hate the murder. How can you forgive the mur.derer and grieve for your friend if you hate the act that set both in motion? I know you disagree, but I still believe that any hate you have keeps you from

the fullness of God's love, because you can not truly be at peace if you hold onto any hate. Maybe I'm wrong, but only you and God can look inside you and determine if you are or are not fully at peace. I know there are a great many things about this world to be upset over. There are so many evils and cruelty, but there is a plan for everything. Even those things that disturb us greatly have a purpose. Only God can be a perfect judge and separate love from hate. As humans, our emotions collide and mix. Let God open your heart to love others with such abundance that you see sin not as something to hate but as something to convict. The murd.erer can be redeemed not by hating the murder, but by experiencing the transformative Love that sacrificed everything for him. So long as he hates his past, he's not looking at the sacrifice or seeing the love. To be made new is to do good not out of hate for doing bad, but for love of doing good. To me, I see a broad distinction.

There was a time when I was offended or hurt by many things. I had insecurities, like most people do. In fact, idiot was one of the things I was called, literally just because of my hair color. But I've learned to be at peace and to try to understand others, but never become angry or hold the hurt inside. I give that over to Christ. I'm an imperfect human and so are they. I know for a fact I've said things I regreted later and have made mistakes. Again, I could be wrong, but I keep getting the sense that you're not at peace, maybe with others or maybe with yourself. This isn't to insult you, but because I care about you. Haven't you been concerned for me? Sometimes it's unfounded, so maybe this is unfounded too. It's just a feeling and I don't have all the pieces. I do pray for you though and try to avoid what I think would help and more what God knows would help. Maybe you do the same.

I don't really want to debate scripture, so you can skip this part if you want. The Sabbath begins at sundown on Friday and ends at sundown on Saturday. Sunday being a holy day is based on the fact that the early Christians met on the first day of the week (Sunday). There is no scriptual mention of it being holy though and Jesus references the Jewish Sabbath. The Old Testiment is a compilation of Jewish books, all written in Hebrew, but the New Testiment is a compilation, mostly of letters, all written in Greek. Because we do not have even copies of copies of copies of the originals, scholars have cross compared the surviving manuscripts. Virtually all of them are identical except for minor differences and you can generally find those in notes at the bottom of pages in your Bible. For example "some manuscrips place verse 23 before vs 22", "some manuscrips say of not by", etc.

As for Romans, it actually says that women traded their "natural function" for an unnatural one and, unlike with men, does not say with other women and "function" is used instead of "lust", the Greek word literally meaning they were penetrated by another. Since women can not do this, it most likely refers to the Roman temple practices described in Romans 1, where they worshiped idols of animals and birds and men had se.x withmen who cut off their genitals to offer to their gods and women had se.x withmale animals as well as were penetrated by "sacred" objects. It's a stretch to say a woman's "function" being twisted means lesbi.anism. But I don't know everything.

Internal peace is something no man has. It was lost in the beggining. Now that being said yes you still can have a portion of that peace but not all of it. I can actually tell u right now why im so obsessed with disproving hom'ose'xuality or other adultery as acts of nature. Place all the commandments on a table. Can you see that they are all very SIMPLE rules? And its easy to explain 9 out of ten of them. But there is 1 that stands out, one thats more complicated, one that almost EVERY human (especially male) faces. Thou shalt not commit Adultery. For years people thought "Oh well thats easy. Wait for my wife or get stoned. Simple enough right?" Wrong. Jesus said even the slightest lustful thought condems you of this sin. So boom. Me and you are probably already guilty of this sin. And buddy i have to say you cannot "like" or "approve" sin. In anyway. It messes with the mind and will allow darker roads to become easier for you. Man im only saying this stuff cuz i love you and i dont-

- want to see you get hurt or have a reality check later in life. Thats the main reason i want to meet you in real life, so that i can physicaly show you how scripture, my mind, and God's word interact with this matter. {on an off topic but have u mentioned CFAW with ur parents yet?}

It turns out there is CFAW at some colleges an universities in California. My parents are not comfortable with the idea of me going to the East Coast. And, even though I believe it's unfounded and would most likely never happen, my mom worries about people finding out that I am attracted to my own gender and attacking or ki.lling me and the school covering it up. I know it's paranoia, but, since there are many people who claim to be Christians who have been misled, she's concerned. She's often been over-protective, as mothers can be. One of her biggest fears has long been that people might ki.ll me. But, I've always been very careful about who knows about my attractions, even moreso after a girl tried to get me to date someone without me realizing it. I would like to meet you too, probably for some of the same reasons you want to meet me, to keep you from going down a dark path.

I am constantly facing reminders of how much of my life was devoted to studying Scripture and how uncommon this is. At some point, certain people deliberately twist Scripture and tell it to others. Others believe this and repeat it. And, since most Christians only have a vague sense of what's in the Bible, they repeat something they NEVER would have come to conclude themselves based on the actual words of the Bible. They would have read it very differently and come to a different conclusion if not influenced by the twisted teachings. This is abundantly clear with hom.ose.xuality, but also with many other topics. It's difficult to write verses on here, but if you'd like, I can suggest a few. The thing is, it's SO common in the Bible, that I feel you should know we do have peace and that, if you do not have peace, you are not right with God. We have "perfect peace" if we are at peace with God through Christ. That's Christ's gift that comes from forgiveness and Love.

Jesus teaches multiple times that keeping the commandments is a natural progression if you are filled with love for God, your neighbor and yourself. For example, if you love your wife, you will not start having fantasies about other women. I'm talking about a relationship of convienience or lust, but genuine love that comes from God and binds the two. If they have that, they will tell the other if they were even tempted to lust because they will not lie to someone they love. Not because they read a rule, but because it comes naturally as a result of being filled with Love. This also applies to people not married, because we are called to love our neighbor as ourself, meaning even if we're single, it dishonors someone else when you lust after them. Even if you are married, your wife can feel like you just want her for her body if you are consumed by lust for her and the se.x no longer becomes love but carnnal passions. So, in all things, have love.

As the Bible says (again, because of number censoring, posting verses is hard, but I can if you want), all love is of God and anyone who does not love is not of God because God is love. Sin is the absence of God, meaning the absence of love. For example, since love is patient, even impatience is a sin. How many people fall into that? :3 Sin separates us from God, but love binds us to God (using the Biblical definition of love, not society's definition). Temptation itself is not a sin. To claim it is, is to say the Bible is lying, because it clearly states that Jesus was tempted in all things common to man but did not sin. Now, temptation is not some abstract thought or simple appreciation for beauty. It's a strong desire for something. It's something that you feel a desire to give into. If there is no desire, it's not temptation because you're not tempted to do it. For example, I am not tempted to lust after women. I need a desire for them to be tempted.

Thus, the Bible makes a ditinction between desire and giving into that desire. So, Jesus found women se.xually attractive, but did not lust after them. How? He loved them. He would not dishonor them. Did he want to? That's what temptation is, but the key to overcoming temptation is love. He was angry and maybe tempted to hurt those who desecrated the temple, but he did not want to hurt them out of love. He never once rose a hand against another. And, in the end, He commited the ultimate act of love in His sacrifice. In my own life, I have found that, as Christ fills me with love, it is so abundant and overflowing that it is easy to honor others. Even if you believe adultry is not adultry, even though not only is it the word adultry but Jesus is very clear he's talking about married men, desire is not commiting adultry in the mind. You cross the line when you dishonor another, when you think or act outside of love.

It's possible you've become too caught up in thinking about sin that you might be overlooking all the people hurting because of depression, bullying, anxiety, etc, which is a lot of people, or at least a lot of people who come to me for advice. But the same thing works in those cases too: love.

Hmm you have come a long way since i first met you. I remember when u said you had doubts about your religion. I also remember that immpatient part of you craving hom'ose'xual attention. As strange as this sounds we have literaly watched each other mature. For the longest time i hated hom'os. I felt they were an evil abbomination and now i see that they are just confused people that has been in dissaray cuz of the worlds view on it. That still may not be ur view but its what mine is now. How old are u RR? Im almost 19 and im not trying to contradict ur parents but you need to be able to make ur own decisions. Like you chose which college you wanna go to. You decide who you want to hang out with. Once your 18 you should be allowed to do those things. Your parents have a right to worry tho as i have seen many demons in hom'os more than anyone physicaly. But you shouldnt have to hide your first name thats silly XD Plus if im going to meet you physicaly i cant just call your area and-

say "Hi can i speak with Rogue Ranger please?" XD Anyway my views on sin remain. I see what you mean by temptation tho. Thats unnavoidable. Its saying NO that makes you stronger.

I think we both made too much out of being "gay". It's not just society that makes people think that se.xuality is the most important thing about a person. Many times, Christians can spread that belief too. But, just as I learned that there is so much more to me and what my calling really was, others can discover this too. But many Christians need to change before this can happen. There are many people beaten, ra.ped, tort.ured or ki.lled in this world because they're suspected of maybe being attracted to their own gender, but far too many Christians are afraid that, if they talk about this, they'll somehow be "promoting the lifestyle", even though the vast majority of the victims never even kissed another person. Then they use deliberately twisted teachings, like that Sodom was not about what it's many references to it throughout the Bible say it was about (idolatry and inhospitality), but that the attempted gang ra.pe of angels condemns anyone attracted to their own gender.

And, since those listening don't read the Bible, they don't know that what these people never bring up is when those events happen again, women are gang ra.ped to death and no one says that condemns all men attracted to women. Similarly, although Romans 1 describes specific people who worship specific kinds of idols, such as those in the images of birds and reptiles, this is often used to condemn people for feelings. Even as it says they are all these things, including murderers, that most people are not, it's once again used to make people feel horrible and evil for being different. And, since few people study Rome at the time of Paul's letter, they don't know everything described happened in temples in Rome and that only then do the details make sense. They also don't go on to Romans 2, which says everyone is a sinner and no one seeks after God.

They even quote from Leviticus, a book that santions slav.ery, requires a man take his brother's wife as a second wife if his brother dies, forces a ra.pe victim to marry her ra.pist, requires death for everything from mixing fabrics to having messy hair, and say "Back then you would have been put to death." The implication is that they deserve death. And they make no distinction between attractions and actions. If someone just feels maybe they're gay, far too many people condemn them. So people who just happen to have an attraction to their own gender are basically made to hate themselves by supposed Christians. And, when they try to change their attractions by themselves and fail, they might be driven to depression or even sui.cide. But along comes society saying that you can be accepted as you are, something every child of God needs to hear from Christians. But no, society has a catch, because love is not unconditional, but is really just lust or desire.

This could have happened to me. I heard it all, people thinking all people with same gender attractions can't be saved or weren't worth it. Both sides made it seem like a battleground, where "the gays" had to go to learn with the rest of brainwashed society that lust is love and that they weren't welcome in the church. They weren't told that no one's perfect, but they are welcome to "come just as you are." There should be no choice between trying to figure out a way to get rid of your feelings to be accepted by Christians who are flawed, or be yourself and be accepted by society, because not everyone has the strength or wisdom to question and realize there's a third option. True Christians should turn no one away. We should make no one feel unwelcome or unworthy. That which God has deemed worth saving let no man drive away.

Jesus teaches using a parable of how bad teachings bear bad fruit and so you can tell teachings by their fruit. Obviously, teachings that lead others into depression and encourage bullying are bad fruits. Worse still, they claim anyone who sympathizes with "gay" people can't be a "true Christian". This divides believers, also bad fruit. What we need to do is stand up and put an end to these false teachings and stop making se.xuality as important as society does, making us no better. No, we need to proclaim that children of God are so much more and that none of these earthy limitations matter. Come just as you are, because only after people feel that love can they begin to realize that their atractions weren't really this huge part of who they are. They are children of light. Being different leads to empathy, but just because someone fits in shouldn't make them uncaring, especially for Christians, since God is love.

I'd like to see you try to work to make this change. No one should hear you're a Christian and automatically think, "Oh, so you hate gay people." There's nothing in the Bible that condemns two people of the same gender loving each other. The argument that because only two same gender couples appear in the whole Bible and Jesus never mentions it doesn't hold up. Jesus speaks of males and females. Does that mean those born with both parts have no role in the kingdom of heaven? There are many churches who would turn away a same gender couple but not the straight couple where the husband just uses his wife for his own pleasure and she doesn't enjoy the se.x. But I would argue that no one should be turned away. Where will this man learn to love his wife as himself or the same gender couple to love each other as themselves? By society? No. Jesus didn't tell the woman caught in adultry that she had to stop sinning before He forgave her.

And Saul didn't have to stop ki.lling Christians before God saved and transformed him into Paul. Everyone needs to learn about the true source of love, not just those deemed worthy by other fellow sinful, imperfect people. If you love everyone, as Christ commanded, you don't demand that they do something you can't do. Only Christ can save and transform someone. This love is unique and not something found elsewhere. We all need to experience it. So, forget the whole "strongly against alternative se.xualities." Why focus on that? It doesn't matter. People are human beings made in the image of God. No one is less in need of grace than anyone else. Call no one a sinner lest you condemn yourself. Instead, preach the free love that forgives and covers, that brings understanding, because we're all lost sheep without a shepard.

Imagine a world where no one says, "Christians? Oh, those people who are really judgemental toward everyone, even just Christians who disagree with them," and instead they say, "Christians? Oh, those people who welcome everyone and forgive everyone because they know no one's perfect, who love everyone, even those who hate them." How much more powerful would that be as a way to draw people to Christ? Acting like Christ, what an idea. You would be able to help soften hardened Christian hearts, maybe even better than me, because those who need to change are judgemental and might say to me, "You have same gender attractions. You just want us to be more Christ-like so you have an excuse to sin," but they wouldn't judge your motives as harshly.

I want you to understand why I would obey my parents. It's not because I refuse to make my own decisions or even that it's an Old Testiment law to be obediant to your parents. It's because I love them. As God said, "If you love Me, you will keep My commandments." I know that my parents are imperfect, just like everyone, but love makes me want to treat them how I would want to be treated, with respect and patience. That's why I wish more people had the open relationship I do with my parents, where we can talk about anything, where it's never "Because I said so," but there's always a reason we can discuss. We learn and grow together. Things will change in time. As my dad says, people get set in their ways as they get older, but you're never too old to admit you might be wrong. How many parents have a relationship with their children where they can openly admit when they were wrong? To me, this is more valuable than having no rules.

I read your status message on the friendlist and I'm praying that everything goes well with your surgery! :3

Hmm i do have a question for you. A hard one. Why do u claim you are or think your a hom'o? I've asked this before but u seem to understand both sides of this coin. Your attractions cannot yield fruit. (Not hating) so whats the point? Loving one another is a claim but then thats just a friendship bond. Se'x isnt an option for hom'os (unless its sodonamy which is the death of most hom'os especially males). Kissing is just as dangerous as it spreads DNA which can alter and corrupt your blood cells. Thats why i've been praying for you and while i do disagree that you should let certain people in your church(Luciferians) that people need God it all boild down to one day. Judgment day. Why risk it? Old testimate law never asked for slavery. God just acknowleged it existed. People made that up. But man seriously why risk it? PS- My surgery was post-poned til Wednesday. Thats the day before my dad goes back to Africa...

Hey can u also do me a favor. Can u get people to leave Valerie White alone? Her christian painting got under weeks best and as i woulda expected on Colors!3d of all places shes being bombed and letting non-christians push her around. The exact OPPOSITE of what she should be doing. This is also why i loathe Colors!3d.

I left a comment on @Valerie White's painting that I think is relevant. I will probably comment again later when I have more time. And I understand that you dislike Colors, but most of the comments (and the number of likes) show that Colors has lots of Christians. I still think you focus too much on the negative. I said the same thing to @The Cartoon Guy (if he ever read my comments) because he was upset over a minority of comments, not the majority of comments or users on Colors. When we look outside, we can see the street covered in cracks and oil, or we can see the trees and sky. If you focus on the negative here, you'll find it everywhere you go. You need to give up this battle of emotions. Love them all, even someone who's rude. Try to understand why they feel the way they do. Maybe they feel like they can't love without God and, if they don't know God, wouldn't that hurt to hear? It doesn't mean it shouldn't be said, just that we shouldn't judge them harshly for needing love.

Take time to be with your dad until he leaves. You can wait to reply to me since I'll still be here.

Maybe I'm misunderstanding part of what you wrote, but are you saying why risk letting people know Christ? Yes, Judgement Day is coming, which is why we don't need to judge anyone. Remember, "No one comes to the Son lest the Father draws him." If an athiest or Luciferian feels a pull toward Christ, we shouldn't turn them away. Why risk it? If we can save someone's soul, that's worth the risk. Keep your arms open and maybe you'll be hurt, but if God is drawing someone to you, they're not going to come as some perfect ideal people. They're going to have issues. It's not our job to filter out who gets to come to Christ. It's our job to be lights and let anyone drawn to that light come. It's a risk, sure, but there's no greater love than if you are willing to lay down your life for others. The alternative is hide our light so no one will be drawn to it.

Ah, how to explain attractions to someone with apparently no frame of reference... Well, I like the colors blue and green and especially the shades they can make together when combined (even if I don't know what to call them all :P). When I see certain colors, I get a strong feeling that I don't get when I see other colors. But another person may simply glance at red and get the same strong feelings I get when I see different colors. Red does nothing for me. It just doesn't click. The same is true of attractions to people. I have these strong feelings and desires with certain members of my own gender that I do not have with any members of my opposite gender. When I hear most girls talk about guys, I hear them expressing what I feel. But when I hear most guys talking about girls, I don't get what they see or feel. I don't see that or feel that. The vast majority of people who call themselves "gay" or "hom.ose.xual" do so for this reason alone, nothing more.

They just feel attractions that are typically as.sociated with the opposite gender's attractions. In fact, this is so common that even people who have se.x with someone of their own gender will consider themselves "straight" if they are attracted to their opposite gender, and someone who has se.x with someone of their opposite gender will consider themselves "gay" if they are attracted to their own gender. Feelings override actions in most people's minds. I know this is difficult to understand if you have no attractions but just like girls out of social norms or obligations, but is that really the case for you? Is it that hard to understand? Maybe I'll think of another way to explain it, but I hope this makes sense. Attractions aren't something you turn off or switch to something else. Only God can change something that deep in someone's heart. But, as I've said before, being different has been an amazing gift in my life because it has made me question things others take for granted.

It's why we have the concept of "spoiled" for people who have easy lives. Challenges build character, wisdom and empathy. If you've never suffered, helping someone out of suffering will not feel as important if you can't relate or understand. The same is true of having same gender attractions. Without them, would I just condemn them out of ignorance and lump people who have attractions or love someone in with those who lust or ra.pe? Would I understand if it weren't personal? After all, it sounds like you don't understand and that's why your heart is hard on this matter. On that topic, I was wondering where you got your beliefs on this topic from? Family, relatives, friends, pastor, internet? I know you said God told you being gay is wrong, but did God also make you think a whole group of people can't be saved? Sometimes we hear what we want to, not the truth. But don't take my word for it. Read the Bible.

Besides sla.very, divorce is allowed in Leviticus and, when this is brought up to Jesus, He says it was because of the hardness of people's hearts. And, just as with everything else, He taught something new and, as always, it was based on love. This implies that people had an excuse for a hard heart before, but what's our excuse now? We've been set free. Why still have a hard heart on the issue of people with same gender attractions? If it softens your heart, that alone would be worth me having those feelings.

I'm a bit confused about the part about kissing spreads DNA that can alter and corrupt blood cells. It sounds like you're talking about a virus causing cancer (viruses inject DNA in healthy cells, but infected cells are typically destroyed unless an DNA and RNA replication error occurs, as in cancer). I've never heard of this and couldn't find anything on it. And then you said that se.x is the leading cause of death for ho.ose.xual males. I as.sume you mean AIDS, though AIDS is only the leading cause of death if you live in parts of Africa (where 3/4 of AIDS fatalities occur, virtually all amoung "straight" people). Here, it's still accidental injury, then heart disease, the same as heterose.xual men. The biggest difference is that, amoung people who die before 25, sui.cide is the leading cause of death amoung people with same gender attractions. And, as each case shows, they feel driven to it by bigotry, hate, these lies that "Christians" keep spreading, and hopelessness.

That's why I'd like to know where you get these beliefs from. Family, friends, pastor, internet? Because none of the things you have against "ho.mos.exuals" are Biblical, factual, or truly Christian. Maybe you can identify the source and avoid these false teachings. There are some people out there who try to make things worse while pretending to be against a problem. They look for the cause and increase that cause while publically being against the problem. For example, one of the causes of hom.ose.xual promiscuity is a lack of social constructs for fidelity, so they oppose anything that might increase monogamy, such as marriage equality. Another problem is not enough ho.mose.xuals coming to Christ, so they say they're unwelcome in churches and tell believers to avoid them, thus making it even worse. These are bad fruits, obviously. Speaking of fruits, what's the point of an infertile opposite gender couple having attractions? There are more fruits than procreation, like love.

You always leave me books to read. XD Anyway i only had time to read two. But ya u misread my post. The goal in life is to let others know about God. What i was getting at is this. Alot of sins are enjoyable for the moment but break us down later on. Live this life to whats most important. A strait relationship leads to a future era of Christians (hopefuly) and u spread the gospel that way while hom.ose'xuality leads to one thing, Confusion. Lets say a hom'o couple adopts a child. Well even if u tried to raise it christian its gonna grow up thinking certain rules can be bent. And it will lead to disaster. Strait relationships can too now but u atleast have back-bone to ur plot. Im just saying this whats worth it more? Eternity or this mortal life? One moment of happiness or Eternity? Is hom'ose'xuality really worth the risks? Should we accept one sin as good and risk our spirit? Is it worth it to you? Is one day, one hour, heck even a few years worth just ur own happiness not God's?

All sins are equal yes but are you willing to violate the temple were He lives just for a worldly view on happiness? God gives us attractions yes but it was meant for reproduction not an unneccesary risk that could destroy you... Please head my warning... PS- This was a message God told me in a dream last night to share with you and a few others... Please pray brother. I love you and so does He.

I know I tend to write a lot, but it's because I want to make sure I'm clear so you can understand me and aren't confused. I always wish you'd write more. Sometimes, like this time, I have to think for a while about your comments. It doesn't sound like we're talking about the same thing but I don't know if I'm misunderstanding you or you're misunderstanding me, or both. I don't want you to feel pressured to write as much as I do, so I'll do my best. Please correct me again if I'm on the wrong track here.

Yes, I completely agree that eternal is infinitely more important than temporary and that, as humans, we are often selfish and think of our own happiness first. That's one of the reasons why we're called to love others, to learn to put someone else's needs above our own. Are you asking why people do this? Selfishness, self preservation, greed, lust...these are all traits humans have in the absence of Love, in the absence of God. Personally, I don't think it's as important to figure out the origin as the cure. Also, I may be wrong here, but it sounds like you're asking me why I'm selfish, greedy and lustful, putting my own happiness first. Or, maybe you're asking why I want others to do that? Again, I could be misinterpreting it, but I don't try to be selfish, greedy or lustful and I don't want others to be either. I'm not perfect, but I do my best to let Christ show through me in my actions. Am I selfish sometimes? Probably so. But am I filled with love for others? Yes.

I try to put the needs of others before my own, but if you can think of a specific example where this is not the case, please tell me so I can work on that area. Remember, I am learning and growing. I am being honest when I say I feel a powerful calling to help others and can feel a love that is not limited to human emotions, but so far beyond. You've felt this too, right?

Re-reading it, I think what you're saying is that people in same gender relationships are trading eternity for a life of happiness. I guess that's true in most cases, just as it is with opposite gender couples. They put their own wants and desires first, thus not living in love. But the point of my earlier conversation was not to single one group out for exclusion. What is the point of constantly bringing up one small group of people? Doesn't everyone need salvation? Why do you feel so strongly against them that they should be denied fellowship with believers? And, if you're saying they do need salvation, then, since we all do, what makes them special in your mind? I think it's just social bias, especially in the athiest media, but also in some churches, that makes those people slightly less likely to seek salvation, not because they're unsavable.

Since I know how terrible the foster care system is and just how many unwanted kids there are out there, I can't be opposed to adoption. My mom was adopted after all. Sure, many parents aren't good at their jobs, are too busy, are uncaring, and everything else, but there are even single parents who try their best to give their children a better life. No one's going to have a perfect life, but to lump all same gender couples together as worse than the foster care system is rather unfair. Not everyone can have a mom and dad, but two people who love them is infintely better than feeling like there's none.

When you get too caught up in trying to find and count every sin of everyone you can think of, you miss the entire point of salvation. You can't get rid of their imperfections. You can't change them at all. But God can.

Here's another way to explain it. I've changed since you've known me. Most of the ways I've changed I don't even think you know. But I didn't change myself or open my heart myself. Since the only mention of same gender attraction in the Bible is in the context of love at first sight, God can obviously use attractions in many ways besides procreation, so let's pick something we can agree is a sin: adultry. The person commiting adultry might try to stop on his own, but fail. Why? Because God needs to change his heart. So, if I said, "You have to stop commiting adultry before you can be saved," I'd be playing God, since God changes people through salvation. And this is what I see you doing (I could be wrong), telling people they have to change before they can be led to salvation. This drives a wedge between people needing Christ and salvation. Sure, God doesn't need us to save someone. He can do it when the person's alone at home. But we're called to this.

If there's some same gender couple who one or both is not acting out of love and purity of spirit, God can change their hearts. Maybe this means they will not be together anymore, or maybe they'll just learn to love each other more truly, but it's up to God.

Please let me know if this addresses what you meant. And thank you for caring about me. I hope you know I only write any of this because I care about you and about the people who might come into your life seeking God.

re: Thanks dude!

How are you doing? Did you have the surgery? Did your dad leave? Still working super long hours? I've been tired, but I hope things are alright with you.

Just checking in again. I don't know where else but here to do that. My dad's birthday was on Monday and I've been keeping busy. I'm finally getting some better sleep. And you?

Hey, um, how are things with you? I'm not trying to pester you if you're busy. I just haven't heard from you. I hope things are well with you.

Happy early birthday! :D I hope things are well with you. If you'd ever like to keep in touch by email or some other way, please let me know. I haven't been feeling well, but I'll see the doctor tomorrow. Well, it's free medical care, so it's not "doctor" but "health care provider".

Happy Crucifiction Day! Or Good Friday if that sounds better. Anyway, I hope you are well. I wish I could hear from you. *HUGS* Take care of yourself! And, remember, you're not alone if you need to talk to someone.

Good Friday AND Happy Birthday! Hope it went good and you didn't have to work rediculous hours.
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Happy very belated Resurection Day! I've been sick again, but I think I'm dispelling the toxins and will recover. How are you doing? I read you got a new 3DS-XL. How's that compare to your old one?

*sniff* omg.... this conversation was so touching......i literally have a few small tears in my eyes right now..... 8}

i have so many mixed emotions about this conversation.......

also, srry to just jump in like this, but i was just looking back at the ppl's galleries whom i didn't look at for a while, then i got hooked on this deep and meaningful conversation -w-

Our conversation has been spied on! XP

I had hoped that you would have waited to move away from Colors, but if you do happen to see this, you can always email me. My email is rogueranger2 ( @gmail.com).