oh gosh yes toned muscles are also really problematic for me. ;; I'd consult a google image search of "male body reference for artists" or something like that idk and look for anything close to what I need. ;; I'd take a reference photo of myself in the pose and estimate with any ref you find online how toned muscles would work in the pose you're drawing. I mean, this is kind of a lazy way to get to draw muscley bodies... you can go look up anatomical models and see which muscle con.nects where but I guess learn at your own pace! I learn best just by doing and drawing a lot of the same from life and making LOTS of observation. Stare a lot!! As much as you need until you understand what you're looking at!

In any case, that's a great tummy you drew there!! 8D

Dude, if i stare a lot, people will get subconscience about their body or get really creeped out about me. :P
XD thanks for the tips though. I've been watching youtube vids. on muscles and its still really tough.
Ty for compliment on stomach. :D

Yaass dat body tho ;)